Do you know what causes this David? I was getting this occationally before I started embedding/sizing every 1/4-a-second on a timer, but that fixed it permenatly for me. Isn't that timer in v2.5 (I know it is since 2.5 embeds sub-windows too)? Mine sometimes looks like that for a split second, but it is always fixed by the 2nd or third call to MoveWindow (which happens every 1/4 second).

Edit: Actually I am using what I sent you just before you released 2.5, but I thought you didn't change anything except fixing some maximize bug??? Did that "fix" cause this bug? I don't get it???