AMP Wishlist Thread - Page 9

JakobMetzger · 09-06-2006, 10:00 PM

bcohen, ive used iStumbler, MacStumbler, KisMac, etc... and they all serve their purpose. I would still like a wardriving utility so that I dont have to switch to another program. and the gps coords=network coords i dont really understand, how about if there is an open network and your not currently on a network or the open one has a better signal to then join.

aychamo · 09-06-2006, 10:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by JakobMetzger

how about if there is an open network and your not currently on a network or the open one has a better signal to then join.

Yeah, that makes much more sense.

aychamo · 09-06-2006, 10:59 PM

I really hate you guys.. lol

Kidding..

So I've been playing around with the wireless network stuff. I have to use a set of apple frameworks called CoreFoundation to do it. I've never messed around with that before, and I have to teach myself a lot of it..

I've already got airport to give me a list of the available wireless networks (although I cant read it, I can just tell it gives me four objects,, and i have four networks in my area.) And I can turn airport on/off.. lol..

I really just need to get it to give me the names and strenghts of signals, and then have the table automatically sort based on strength of signal, and an option to auto join the strongest signal..

What else should the war driving app do? I could see eventually neat things like you can "mark" a great signal that you are illegally stealing and have it make a waypoint or whatever in the GPS stuff..

JakobMetzger · 09-06-2006, 11:01 PM

network 1-75%
network 2-30%

1.
your on network 2

it asks you if you want to join network 1 because network 2 sucks

2.
your not on a network

it ask you to join any available network

JakobMetzger · 09-06-2006, 11:02 PM

that waypoint thing for gps is pretty cool but thats the only thing i can think of for it.

LightningMac · 09-07-2006, 01:07 AM

yeah I'd say name your favorite location and maybe have a way to mark where that location is. i.e. "starbucks near house" or intersections. Also a tag on whether it's encrypted or open or heck have it be able to filter out the encrypted ones if desired. Also an auto join strongest signal, and notify you that it's doing that. A signal strengh bar graph would be cool also...

Jirka Jirout · 09-07-2006, 08:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by aychamo

I have to use a set of apple frameworks called CoreFoundation to do it.

you do not have to mess with CoreFoundation that much, most of its classes you need are toll-free bridged to Cocoa classes... CF is one framework by the way and it does not handle any WiFi specific stuff - that is done by private framework called Apple80211...

Quote:

I really just need to get it to give me the names and strenghts of signals, and then have the table automatically sort based on strength of signal, and an option to auto join the strongest signal..

Look for Apple80211.h and have a look into MacStumbler source code. It is very easy actually.

aychamo · 09-07-2006, 10:45 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jirka Jirout

you do not have to mess with CoreFoundation that much, most of its classes you need are toll-free bridged to Cocoa classes... CF is one framework by the way and it does not handle any WiFi specific stuff - that is done by private framework called Apple80211...

Look for Apple80211.h and have a look into MacStumbler source code. It is very easy actually.

Ahh yes. I see what you are saying about the bridged classes. That makes things a whole lot easier. I'm still new to most of this stuff. I've found source-code to iStumbler (which is an incredibly written piece of software.) I'm going to hack out what I need for a very basic war-driving App.

You think Apple will ever open up (make it non-private) the Apple80211 framework?

Jirka Jirout · 09-07-2006, 11:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by aychamo

You think Apple will ever open up (make it non-private) the Apple80211 framework?

No, I do not think they will make it public. WiFi is clearly usable only for limited number of purposes and OS X covers these. So the situation is different than with let's say Bluetooth (where you can come with new ideas and devices) and there is no need for opening the framework for other developers.

macbus · 09-07-2006, 01:15 PM

Hi Aychamo, great work so far! Amp is by far the best frontend out there for a mac so far.

My feature request is pretty simple, please could you incorporate keyboard commands for the on screen buttons?

I see that the up and down keys work when scrolling through artists, but not albums, why do I request this?

Well, I'm planning to use two griffin powermates eitherside of my touch screen - (I want it to have a semi retro look as it's going in to a type 2 VW Bus). The knob on the left controls volume, pushing answers phone via bluephone elite and mutes other apps and the one on the right controls scrolling through list etc, pushing selects.

Also would it be possible to start playing from higher up the tree than an individual track, eg if you select an artist and press play Amp starts to play all tracks by that artist.

great work, thanks

aychamo · 09-07-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by macbus

Also would it be possible to start playing from higher up the tree than an individual track, eg if you select an artist and press play Amp starts to play all tracks by that artist.

great work, thanks

Hey there, thank you for the kind words!

I've had this requested a few times. The problem is I designed the interface to go deeper into the directory tree when you hit play. Ie, you hit Play on your artist name, and it brings you to the album. And then you hit Play on the album name and it brings you to the songs. So.. I'd need another button somewhere in there as "Enter" to men to select the current artist and go deeper in the tree (as I hear that double clicking doesnt work well on touch screens -- I can't test this since I still don't have one, LOL)

Then you get the logic problem. If you hit Play on an artist, should it just play his first album? Or should it que all their albums?

I have to think this one through for a while..

About the other things, I'm looking into the best way to do keyboard control, as a few others ask for it too.

Thanks again,
Aychamo

aychamo · 09-07-2006, 03:50 PM

Here's a *VERY* rough version of what I've got going on for the war-driving. I'm going to move the options to a seperate screen (an options screen), and have more info on the current network, etc, in the bottom area..

I also need to add in options to turn on/off airport, etc. All the buttons work though, as of now.

edit: the lock means that it's an encrypted network. I have another lame icon in there for adhoc networks. I could use some nice icons for those, and something of a bar-graph that looks FrontRow-ish for the strength meter

LightningMac · 09-07-2006, 04:59 PM

Dude you Rock! I didn't expect something so fast!

I'd just move the options to another page, increase the size the availible networks and add current network and signal strength to the bottom of the page... just my humble two cents...

AWESOME!!!!

edit: had another thought, how about some type of status light on a page that shows you are connected to the internet, just a green led on the main page or something so that when you're driving you know "hey cool, found a signal, think I'll pull over and check my email"

Sharkbite86 · 09-07-2006, 06:35 PM

what would be cool is if you added a small wifi icon to the very upper left corner of the screen. That way whenever it is lit you know your connected to an internet connection. Just something like the airport menu bar icon thing for mac os would work. Hope i made that sorta clear.

LightningMac · 09-07-2006, 07:00 PM

I agree, but I don't think it it would have to show signal strengh, it could just be an indicator showing you have a signal, like a green light, that way maybe if you press on it, it would take you to the war driving menu so you could see what kind of signal you had and such...

what do you think?