AutoTouch2 Beta is here! - Page 3

tolum · 03-20-2005, 01:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Gremlin

GPS Update is I believe as often as the reciever puts it out. One reason I can't release the GPS section at least open source is I'm using someone elses GPS Driver that I liscenced. It essentially trips an event whenever it updates. So I assume it's doing it whenever it can.

I'll double check that assumption though!

Thanks a lot for your answer. I would like to try it with MP2002 in my Eastern-Europe trips, since it have some maps from there. The main problem is that the MP2002 is updating the gps status each 15 sec. As far as I saw there is a Gps library module on your application. It will be nice if the status is updating as you told - each time as it receiving an update or at least at each second.
One more question (or how it works): in never test it on the motorways. If a wrong route was performed, is it making automaticaly the re-routing or have to press the re-route icon? Is choosing in this case the closest local road (even there is no junction to the motorway) or going through motorway?

Thanks again,
Tolum

Gremlin · 03-20-2005, 11:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Arathranar

Bug report:
1. Doesn't handle high dpi - menus & dialogs become bigger than the screen.
2. Wmp has screwed up it's library after adding all my music to a clean machine. Now it crashes when I try and update the library. Crash is in a test OS binary I have installed so it may be due to that.
3. Music interface doesn't compare to Windows Media Center or centrafuse. The ability to search by typing a sub string could be nice though.
4. Map doesn't rotate when not navigating which stumped me until only just now.

I'll take a look at these. bet let me ask you some questions:

1) Define Hi-DPI, 1600x1200? What size are you backgronds? (Can you send me your skin?)
2) Is the library messed up in WMP itself? I just get my library by querying that so if WMP is messed up it probably gives me a screwed up library, in which case I can't do much.
3) How so? "Doesn't much compare" sounds more like personal taste, what I'd love to know is what features is it missing? How could I improve on it? I hapepn to think it works better than the others because it works wtih a touch keyboard, you don't need an external keyboard at all on the pc (I never run one) Another point on this, if anyone generally likes what it does but wants it to work wtih WinAmp etc I'm happy to work with you so that you could do a plug-in. Everyone seemed to want the Plug-In architecture but so far no one seems to have done anything!
4) Really? That could be, I'll have to look into it. thanks for spotting that one?

Arathranar · 03-20-2005, 11:53 PM

1. High dpi as in Display properties->Settings->Advanced->General->120 dpi
2. Yes, WMP was screwed. It does seem to be the private binary I had installed.
3. I'd like some kind of scrollable list - I don't know my music by name. The combo box drop down is very difficult to press with a touch screen. And once open is very difficult to scroll. Because the search is not a sub string search I can't really use it. Have you seen the MCE keyword search? It combines sub string searches with a dynamic list. Very neat and would be very good here.

Gremlin · 03-20-2005, 11:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Arathranar

1. High dpi as in Display properties->Settings->Advanced->General->120 dpi
2. Yes, WMP was screwed. It does seem to be the private binary I had installed.
3. I'd like some kind of scrollable list - I don't know my music by name. The combo box drop down is very difficult to press with a touch screen. And once open is very difficult to scroll. Because the search is not a sub string search I can't really use it. Have you seen the MCE keyword search? It combines sub string searches with a dynamic list. Very neat and would be very good here.

I'll check it with High-DPI I wonder if that's to do with font sizes specified in the skin you're using, it should all be settable in there.

2) Okay so SEP (Somebody Else's Problem

)

3) Okay I get it, yeah mine is just a prefix search if you wanted a true sub string search that could actually probably be worked out. MCE Do you mean XP Media Center Edition?

Arathranar · 03-21-2005, 12:07 AM

Yes. XP Media Center.

Gremlin · 03-21-2005, 09:47 AM

I'll look into doing a substring match as well, it would probably be an option I would think, but that's a cool idea. I'll have to try HighDPI too!

tolum · 03-23-2005, 02:17 PM

Hi,

Sorry for my anoyance...How frequent is the GPS updating? It is default from Mappoint? Could it be done to be updated at least at each second? As I told I intend to use it with Mappoint 2002 (by default MP2002 is updating of each 15 seconds the GPS update)

Thanks

Gremlin · 03-25-2005, 12:20 PM

I think I update the position once every three seconds, you can change this with a parameter in the Navigation section of the skin file.

It should be under the NavOptions node you can have an attribute called "GPSDelay", if this is not set it defaults to 3 seconds (sorry I forgot about this) I did it because on my Via Eden chipset going at 1 second causes the rotate stuff not to work and I like it to work.

-G

tolum · 03-26-2005, 03:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Gremlin

I think I update the position once every three seconds, you can change this with a parameter in the Navigation section of the skin file.

It should be under the NavOptions node you can have an attribute called "GPSDelay", if this is not set it defaults to 3 seconds (sorry I forgot about this) I did it because on my Via Eden chipset going at 1 second causes the rotate stuff not to work and I like it to work.

-G

Thanks to Gremlin

,

Sorry that I did not take a deep look (usualy I am a diggy guy

) It is strange what you are saying. The GPS rate update + MB Chipset + rotate. Probably is because of the processing, but I think that's nothing to do within the chipset.

I will try to setup with a notebook in the trunk (old Celeron at 450 Mhz), with a screen in the place of the radio (I own a Laguna II - it have a very nice lift door).

Keep in touch ,
Tolum

Gremlin · 03-26-2005, 10:14 PM

Not so strange, I don't think the Via Eden has a particularly floating point performance, The way I do rotate is to fake it, I screen shot the full mappoint screen, and then blit it back rotated after applying a transformation, so the process takes some time, a little while for mappoint to draw the screen which has to be larger than the window your showing otherwise you'd see the edges when you rotate, then a while to rotate it.

-G

tolum · 03-27-2005, 06:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Gremlin

Not so strange, I don't think the Via Eden has a particularly floating point performance, The way I do rotate is to fake it, I screen shot the full mappoint screen, and then blit it back rotated after applying a transformation, so the process takes some time, a little while for mappoint to draw the screen which has to be larger than the window your showing otherwise you'd see the edges when you rotate, then a while to rotate it.

-G

Hmmm,

I think I was missunderstood. It is nothing to do with the floating point. It is only the amount of data of processing. However, it is the best frontend for Mappoint that I have ever saw. Maybe it is the time for a poll

Best Regards,
T

chuckster · 03-31-2005, 10:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by tolum

Hmmm,

I think I was missunderstood. It is nothing to do with the floating point. It is only the amount of data of processing. However, it is the best frontend for Mappoint that I have ever saw. Maybe it is the time for a poll

Best Regards,
T

RR now has support for MapPoint.

Arathranar · 03-31-2005, 11:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by chuckster

RR now has support for MapPoint.

The support is there, but the UI needs improving yet.

chuckster · 03-31-2005, 11:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Arathranar

The support is there, but the UI needs improving yet.

Agreed but it is coming along nicely and the updates are quick.

Chuck

Gremlin · 03-31-2005, 01:46 PM

Updates to AutoTouch are coming along as fast as folks ask for stuff. And it works now. Last time I tried RR it didn't work as well with only a touch screen. ID on't want to have to have a keyboard around, and further more I don't want to have to use anything more than the touch screen to use the app, which was the design philosphy behind AutoTouch.

I'm open to suggestions for new development as you can see from responses to this forum, if they're quick I usually turn them around in a day or two, if not (like the stuff to be able to write plug-ins) it takes some planning, but they do get done.

The impediment to active development now is someone actually wanting things done. From the forum there aren't too many folks actually using this stuff now, I'm not sure what they want, if I was I could look at adding it.

The on current one I need to do is a *foo* search instead of the current foo* search.