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06-09-2007, 03:30 AM
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#301
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FLAC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hou. TX
Vehicle: 99 Trans Am
Posts: 1,458
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Really, no EQ? I'll have to look at it in more detail.
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EDIT:It seems to have the basic Subwoofer level 0-15, bass and treble -7 - +7. Is this what you meant?
I mainly care about the volume control. I want to be able to control it from the steering wheel without having the high noise floor at lower volumes or when muted that I have now.
Just a bit of interesting info. Appearantly it and one other Pioneer HU are the only 2 units that can directly interface and bypass the 5th gen Ipods internal DAC. The digital info is sent to the HU and it uses the HU's higher end DAC to get the really good sound quality.
Ever since I found a big empty cavity in the dash of my car I've been considering running a 3.1 setup with a center channel. I could actually mount some small subs up there as well, but a center channel would probably be the better choice. Has anyone used the H701 and set up a center channel with a regular 2 channel stereo source? I think the processor can do that.
Last edited by JasonWW; 06-09-2007 at 03:49 AM.
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06-13-2007, 10:20 AM
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#302
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FLAC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hou. TX
Vehicle: 99 Trans Am
Posts: 1,458
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Quote: Originally Posted by disker 
When playing an MP3 CD or DVD it will show the information contained in the MP3 tag, the time remaining and bitrate info. For other sources, I THINK it just shows the source name selected. It's been a while since I've connected my monitor to it. If no one else replys with more info, I'll take my monitor out to my truck and connect it back to see what the other sources shows.
Is there any way you can do this and snap a pic of what the LCD screen looks like? Does it show any info for the radio or XM?
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06-13-2007, 03:10 PM
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#303
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 20
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Pic of display
Here is the link to a pick I've already taken for MP3 CD/DVD:
http://ssbbs.dyndns.org/panic/gfx/in...n/IMG_0565.jpg
This week is kinda hectic, but it you can wait till the weekend, I'll take some pictures of the different media types for ya.

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06-13-2007, 09:18 PM
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#304
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FLAC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hou. TX
Vehicle: 99 Trans Am
Posts: 1,458
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Hey thanks. Is it in black and white? It's not pretty, but it looks like it gets the job done. No rush.
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06-13-2007, 10:01 PM
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#305
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 20
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Quote: Originally Posted by JasonWW 
Hey thanks. Is it in black and white? It's not pretty, but it looks like it gets the job done. No rush.
Not quite B&W - you of course have the backdrop on the unit (check Alpine's WWW site - many available) and most of the text is white. The picture doesn't show it too well but the icons are mostly light blue. 
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06-13-2007, 10:15 PM
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#306
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Laptop, Tablets, UMPC Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NY
Vehicle: 2002 pontiac montana
Posts: 5,956
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by no eq control I mean that you can't adjust anything on the 701 thru this head, you can have the volume control issue all solved by ai-net, & you can select each of the 6 eq presets from the head, but you gotta also have the display to really do anything useful, I guess you'd need a multimedia headunit with a screen to be able to eliminate the display all togeather, although it's still nice to have 
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06-14-2007, 04:46 AM
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#307
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FLAC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hou. TX
Vehicle: 99 Trans Am
Posts: 1,458
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Quote: Originally Posted by disker 
Not quite B&W - you of course have the backdrop on the unit (check Alpine's WWW site - many available) and most of the text is white. The picture doesn't show it too well but the icons are mostly light blue. 
Cool.
Did you get the H701 or are still on the fence about it? I was wondering if a monitor was hooked up to the 9861 and you went into the H701 control mode if you would get a nice big display with more info than what you see on the 9861's faceplate. Kind of like what you see on the high end Alpine Multimedia units.
Anyway, did you sort out your sound quality problem from earlier? I think I ran out of things to suggest. 
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06-17-2007, 11:44 AM
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#308
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FLAC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hou. TX
Vehicle: 99 Trans Am
Posts: 1,458
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If you have a AI-net HU, the H701 and another optical source like a PC or something, can you set the HU input to one of the optical ports on the H700?
Would you then be able to control this other optical source's volume through the HU volume knob?
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06-17-2007, 01:50 PM
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#309
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 18
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Quote: Originally Posted by JasonWW 
If you have a AI-net HU, the H701 and another optical source like a PC or something, can you set the HU input to one of the optical ports on the H700?
Would you then be able to control this other optical source's volume through the HU volume knob?
Having read posts about this exact issue, but without first-hand experience as of yet: it seems that you can use the HU as a master volume control for all auxiliary inputs. However, any non-AI-net optical input will automatically become the active source, such that the Ai-net HU optical output will not be recognized. Once no other optical input is received, then the Ai-net HU once again can play.
-barry
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06-17-2007, 01:59 PM
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#310
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FLAC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hou. TX
Vehicle: 99 Trans Am
Posts: 1,458
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I just remembered Turbo talking about a optical switcher a while back. Here is what he said:
Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6 
alright, the way I switch from the carpc to the headunit is simple... the head unit connects through ai-net, not optical....
when the 700 see's a light on the toslink, it automatically switches to it...
I had a switch rigged to the usb soundcard(a turtle beach roadie)... when it was turned on, the sound was the pc, when off it would switch back to the ai-net input automatically... as soon as the light goes out on the fiber optic it switches back...
once in a great while it would not switch when the toslink went out, I then had to switch sources & it switches right away...
I have 5 different sources to select from, the pc is just one of them.... switching is easy & no problem....
Now the part I'm unclear about is if you have the optical PC source connected to the H701 AND have a Apline HU connected only with the analog (signal wise I believe) AI-net connector, would the HU still act as a master volume control for that other optical source?
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06-17-2007, 02:02 PM
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#311
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FLAC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hou. TX
Vehicle: 99 Trans Am
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Quote: Originally Posted by bblitz 
Having read posts about this exact issue, but without first-hand experience as of yet: it seems that you can use the HU as a master volume control for all auxiliary inputs.
Do you mean the auxiliary inputs connected to the HU or some connected to the H701?
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06-17-2007, 02:11 PM
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#312
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FLAC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hou. TX
Vehicle: 99 Trans Am
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I was thinking a cheap used Alpine AI-net HU connected to the H701 through the AI-net cable and a used CHA-S624 changer (has optical out) can be connected to the H701 with the AI-net cable but not the optical cable. Then I could set the HU input to changer and then connect whatever optical SPDIF device I wanted to into the H701. I think the H701 would just assume it was the CD changer hooked up optically and then allow the HU volume knob to act as a master volume control for the optical device.
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06-17-2007, 09:16 PM
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#313
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 18
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Quote: Originally Posted by JasonWW 
I was thinking a cheap used Alpine AI-net HU connected to the H701 through the AI-net cable and a used CHA-S624 changer (has optical out) can be connected to the H701 with the AI-net cable but not the optical cable. Then I could set the HU input to changer and then connect whatever optical SPDIF device I wanted to into the H701. I think the H701 would just assume it was the CD changer hooked up optically and then allow the HU volume knob to act as a master volume control for the optical device.
The wiring diagrams for the H701 show the head unit and changer connected with both AI-net and optical for each. Doesn't that mean the AI-net connection is for control only? If that is the case, perhaps you could have the CD changer connect to the H701 with an RCA.
Also, I do not know of a cheap AI-net HU that has its own inputs. I am planning on using the DVA-9861, which does not have any inputs. In response to TurboCAD's suggestion I bought an optical switcher so that I can turn off the optical signal to the H701. There apparently have been pc freezing issues that others have had when turning off the soundcard so as to make the optical output blank.
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06-17-2007, 09:48 PM
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#314
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Laptop, Tablets, UMPC Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
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you don't need to get a changer to fool the alpine, how the 700 works is, it'll play the signal through ai-net, then when it detects light through the fiber optic it auto switches to that, I can select dvd or cd, the dvd will play & the audio for the dvd will play thru ai-net, then when i connect the pc in through the optical for the dvd it takes over & all sound is the optical, unplg the optical it switches back... on some occasions it wont auto switch back to the ai-net, all I have to do is switch source & switch back to resume ai-net
it's when you want to use the dvd optical & the pc optical for example that the issues can come up, if you manually unplg one & plug the other it'll switch no problem, I did that for a while but was working on an auto switcher, I found a huge manual optical switch that worked, but I want to build a motorized one
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06-17-2007, 09:57 PM
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#315
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Laptop, Tablets, UMPC Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NY
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another strange thing, I think all the optical inputs are tied togeather, I can put it in any one of the 3 & it'll play...
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