Processor Options - Page 3

RedGTiVR6 · 10-10-2006, 01:26 PM

not with a CarPC yet.

If Focal hadn't of come out with the Dual Monitor amplifiers, the friend of mine that used the DBX last year would probably be using it this year in conjunction with a CarPC.

I'd do it in a heart beat, just don't think I'm ready for the expert lanes just yet...

XC-C30 · 10-10-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6

people have been adapting the DBX drive racks for ages.

A good friend of mine used one last year in the expert class.

they modified the PSU to be 12v.

Works quite well, just requires a good deal of space and some knowhow.

I don't have any experiënce with the particular unit, but isn't behringer well known for getting noise into the signal? I mean, i used other stuff from behringer, and there allways would be some unwanted noise, or distortion of some sort coming up.... so is it realy that good for SQ, cause then I could skip the UCS pro I was maybe going to buy from someone at an other forum (saves me a lot of money

Damon · 10-11-2006, 02:02 AM

To address the PSU issue, I used an older Ultra-Curve for a bit in the late 90's. I simply used the PSU from an Image Dynamics IDX-24 and ran both units with it. Regarding the noise issue, it was quieter than a RF symmetry EPX2, but that isn't saying much.

durwood · 10-11-2006, 11:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by IC-C30

I don't have any experiënce with the particular unit, but isn't behringer well known for getting noise into the signal? I mean, i used other stuff from behringer, and there allways would be some unwanted noise, or distortion of some sort coming up.... so is it realy that good for SQ, cause then I could skip the UCS pro I was maybe going to buy from someone at an other forum (saves me a lot of money

I have heard rumors of noise issues from other behringer products but I have not used them so I can't comment. At a $250 price point with all the features...you have to wonder about the quality of the product. Specs look good but numbers on a piece of paper don't aways make for a good product. It's a cheaper solution to all others if you have the room in your car, and maybe aren't planning on competing in car audio.

If you don't want to risk it, the DBX unit is nice. As Red said, people have been using in car audio for years as an alternative. Here is a link

http://www.dbxpro.com/481/481.htm

(a little expensive @ $2400)

Also, I have seen complaints about ground loop noise issues with the UCS so do some more research on that as well.

durwood · 10-11-2006, 12:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6

not with a CarPC yet.

If Focal hadn't of come out with the Dual Monitor amplifiers, the friend of mine that used the DBX last year would probably be using it this year in conjunction with a CarPC.

I'd do it in a heart beat, just don't think I'm ready for the expert lanes just yet...

Unless you are world famous and no one questions anything you say and are regarded as the "car audio guru of the gods", its hard to want to jump to that level. The politics at the Pro level are bad enough. Then again, sometimes its more fun to challenge them.

Don't worry, your friend will come around. Everyone should have a computer in their car

durwood · 10-11-2006, 12:23 PM

How did we forget Audiocontrol?

-DQXS (Six Channel In / 8 Channel out Digital Crossover / Equalizer with Memory)
-DQX (Two Channel In /6 Channel out Digital Car Audio Equalizer and Crossover)

http://www.mobileaudiocontrol.com/de...d=5247&l1=5247

RedGTiVR6 · 10-11-2006, 01:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by durwood

Unless you are world famous and no one questions anything you say and are regarded as the "car audio guru of the gods", its hard to want to jump to that level. The politics at the Pro level are bad enough. Then again, sometimes its more fun to challenge them.

Don't worry, your friend will come around. Everyone should have a computer in their car

he already does, I built it for him and have been consulting him about it.

The Focal Dual monitor amps have optical ins and USB outs to allow for tuning functionality much like the 700/701 processor from Alpine.

One day we hope to compete at the expert level, but we're not in any rush to get there...

RedGTiVR6 · 10-11-2006, 01:49 PM

updated the list btw

XC-C30 · 10-11-2006, 06:52 PM

ehm, the dbx 480 is "just a little.... ahum" too expensive to me

other option is the alto mobile drive20 or drive30

XC-C30 · 10-11-2006, 07:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by durwood

I have heard rumors of noise issues from other behringer products but I have not used them so I can't comment. At a $250 price point with all the features...you have to wonder about the quality of the product. Specs look good but numbers on a piece of paper don't aways make for a good product. It's a cheaper solution to all others if you have the room in your car, and maybe aren't planning on competing in car audio.

If you don't want to risk it, the DBX unit is nice. As Red said, people have been using in car audio for years as an alternative. Here is a link

http://www.dbxpro.com/481/481.htm

(a little expensive @ $2400)

Also, I have seen complaints about ground loop noise issues with the UCS so do some more research on that as well.

wel, behringer idn't that wel built actually, but if you handle it with care, it might work I assume?

Damon · 10-24-2006, 09:37 PM

Update on the Pioneer ODR referenced on page 1: I am now running one in my car, and the only caveat is that pioneer's "optical" bus is some type of proprietary non-optical digital interface. So, I'm just running analog into the unit via IPbus adapter.

Beyond that, the processing is very nice. Fully configurable 4-way crossover, with adjustable points and slopes (slopes adjustable in 6dB/oct. increments from 6 to 36 dB/octave) Furthermore, the slopes are independantly adjustable on each end of each band. Over- and underlap are also possible with this crossover. It is able to adjust the level of each band, as well as running in 2 or 3-way mode. Time alignment and phase for each band are also adjustable.

The internal EQ can be set up in 2/3 or 1/3 octave resolution, in addition to the standard bass/trable adjustments found on most HUs.

Finally, the level of each source can be adjusted to match the others, using FM radio as the reference. (No more volume adjustments when switching sources!)

Basically, for the money, I'm pretty happy with the unit. I also have a P1R laying on the shelf that I got in a package deal with the ODR. This has many of the same features of the ODR, with a more limited X-over and EQ, but is contained in a single DIN chassis rather than DIN + external enclosure.

Ruffy · 11-09-2006, 02:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by IC-C30

ehm, the dbx 480 is "just a little.... ahum" too expensive to me

other option is the alto mobile drive20 or drive30

I feel ya. I've been considering the audiocontrol stuff untill i found out the price. Freaking $300-600

For that I'd rather just get the alpine

Sigh, im stuck undecided on what to do

I'm thinking EMU 0404 usb - optical toslink - some kind of dsp.

I dont care about dolby. I would like time alignment and EQ. I dont care much about crossover controls as i can set that at the amp, and im keeping my passive component crossovers.

I just want to be able to have optical input to 6 rca channels out at a decent clean voltage with good sound quality.

RedGTiVR6 · 11-09-2006, 02:38 PM

if you find it, let us know...

btw - why RCA, you can make your own cables...so why limit yourself? why not 1/4" or 1/8"?

Ruffy · 11-24-2006, 09:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6

if you find it, let us know...

btw - why RCA, you can make your own cables...so why limit yourself? why not 1/4" or 1/8"?

I have good quality RCA cables already. Less work/time/money

plus I dont really like 1/4" 1/8" connections. I find them noisy most of the time. Id rather have a seperate connection for each channel.

RedGTiVR6 · 11-25-2006, 09:50 AM

1/4" and 1/8" can still be individual channels...just like RCA!

btw - what RCAs are you running?