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10-19-2006, 01:10 PM
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There's also a Firewire version of Behringer UCA202. Looks as though quite a different desing:
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/fca%20review/
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10-19-2006, 03:10 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dragonknell911 
i like the knob, but other than that :thumbsdown:
(i was hoping it was more like the other external audigy)
Yeah, the lack of much of anything jacks wise isn't that great, though I know for me it's no an issue since all I use is 1 line out.
What I find interesting is the X-fi 24bit Crystalizer which is suposed to using some sort of algorithms return a compressed MP3 back to not even CD quality but to studio quality, sounds far fetched but the review I have seen so far said it does an excelent job at it and the difference is noticable, also the X-fi CMSS 3D for simulated surround is nice too, I have that on my Audigy 2 on my home PC and I really like and would love to have it in my car.
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10-19-2006, 03:33 PM
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I find the X-fi piece advertising interesting. How does one make a studio recorded sound sound better than the original, and more "real" as they put it? Reminds me of Alpine's mediaxpander. or better yet, MP3pro...that really took off. The X-fi designer must have sat in on all the live performances and made note of how it "should" sound so he could later design that piece.
Hell, we should be able to make pond water better than the first original drop of water ever. Giddy Up!
Marketing...
Just my 2cents
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10-27-2006, 03:54 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by jasonsjwou 
BTW
Do you know if anyone makes a car amp with balanced input?
i just found out; at least on the older xtant amp models...the one i had in my last install, that they have balanced inputs with a floating ground. so you can use the rca inputs for -/+ signal and ignore the ground. so..there is another option for you. that amp was amazing and with the addition of the balanced inputs you would have a really nice setup with little noise
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10-27-2006, 08:36 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by scott_fx 
i just found out; at least on the older xtant amp models...the one i had in my last install, that they have balanced inputs with a floating ground. so you can use the rca inputs for -/+ signal and ignore the ground. so..there is another option for you. that amp was amazing and with the addition of the balanced inputs you would have a really nice setup with little noise
Older soundstreams have balanced inputs as well. You would have to get the special cable or make your own...but for SQ the XTANTs sound better. Just another option...
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10-27-2006, 09:04 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South of Chicago, IL
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This may sound odd but my Hifonics BX1500D has balanced inputs, and while looking at the manual so does all the other D-class amps for that year.
My A/B from them doesn't though and that would make a little more sense to me as they are more used for full range/highs. Either way, they are cheap to find amps and may have the option on current models. You just need some special connector for it.
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10-27-2006, 11:13 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South of Chicago, IL
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Quote: Originally Posted by jasonsjwou 
Auzentech X-Meridian has 5 Volt output. User replacable Opamps and clocks too.
If KX project supports it, that would be my answer. I don't know if it does, or if they are working on it.
It has 8 channel output. Configurable in any way we want..
ActiveXover, EQ, delay, effects etc all in digital domain... infinitly reconfigurable....
Looks like this product is shipping as of yesterday, it seems very tempting. Just by looking at the spec sheet, any opinions on a possible downfall of the card?.. Still says "Pre-order Special: Order in advance for FREE shipping!" but the order page no longer says pre-order and they quoted an October release.
I personally am only looking for 2.1 and might just utilize passthrough for it (ED amps), this looks to have more than enough options and 5 volt pre-outs would be extra nice!.... Any additional thoughts?
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10-27-2006, 11:36 PM
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If it had more outputs, I'd be all over it.
Hell, I'm thinking about buying one anyways, for the home PC.
swappable opamps and clocks, sign me up!
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10-28-2006, 01:01 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South of Chicago, IL
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How many outputs are you looking for?
And then after that part what are you using them all for?... Active configurations?
I can't see exactly how many outputs this has but being that it is 7.1 I would think roughly 8. (I may be wrong)
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10-28-2006, 02:47 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South of Chicago, IL
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Ok I take that back (I was thinking of receivers) but how many outputs does it actually have?
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10-28-2006, 05:19 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fairfield, CA
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Here's a dirt-cheap 2-channel USB soundcard to add to the list:
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16829612001
I'm thinking about picking one up just to run into the AUX input of my headunit as a temporary setup (till I get everything else ironed out) then upgrading later on. It's cheap enough and has received good reviews at Newegg thus far; how bad can it be?
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10-28-2006, 09:38 AM
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Front Tweeters = 2
Front Midrange = 2
Front Midbass = 2
Sub = 2 provided you only go with a single sub amp
That puts you at the limit of the card, can't go with any more.
And that's provided you can completely remap what each output does, not sure on that yet.
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10-28-2006, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South of Chicago, IL
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Everything I would ever want and more.... Women!!...LOL 
Thank you though for breaking it down for me, wasn't sure if it was some akward way of doing it with sound cards.
Also I am not going to find out some crap about 5vRMS balanced and really 2.5 unbalanced right? I wouldn't think so, but I would hate to assume.
I am just waiting for newegg to carry it, and I can finally order the wishlist I have been waiting on.
Last edited by bungee91; 10-28-2006 at 10:07 AM.
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10-31-2006, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Georgia
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Adding this since it isnt on the list
M-Audio Fastrack Pro : MSRP $249.99, Street Price $200
-ASIO support with monitoring
-24-bit/96kHz
-4 unbalanced outputs (RCA)
-2 balanced outputs (¼” TRS)
-S/PDIF supports pass-through of AC-3/DTS
-Powered via USB or wallwart
-SNR -103dB, A-weighted
-THD+N 0.005% (-86dB) @ -1dBFS, 1kHz
-Master output level control
A "card" im considering. Still leaning towards the Emu 404 usb
if only they had 4-6 channels otuput
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11-13-2006, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Hate to restart this thread, but has anyone tried using a card where they can achieve 2 seperate outputs from 2 seperate programs granted their computer is powerful enough. For instance if I had sound from a movie going to headphones in the backseat and still have mp3's playing up front?
The E-MU interfaces are not very processor friendly. We have an EMU-1820 that sounds amazing, but is slow with anything under 1.5Ghz.
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