I've found lot's of good ideas and helpfull hints on how to weed out the alt. and engine noise going through the system, and managed to completely remove all whine. However, I know there's a way to make a "soft" shut down. I think it's the way I have the amps hooked up, but when I shut down the speakers make a loud pop/boom as if it's not grounded correctly. One amp poweres the subs and the other powers the speakers os I could use my phillips surround to run each channel individually, there's not deck. The amps share the same ground point while the computer is far forward and has a serperate ground. all my searches have resulted in more whine filter problems when this is something different I think, although it may be associated with ground it's a problem with shutdown. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated, thanks