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08-01-2005, 07:22 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Little Elm, Texas
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SDPIF digital Coax into car audio pieces
So I keep hearing people talk about SPDIF digital off the mother boards being the best thing ever siince it's an RCA connection.
What I have yet to see is someone actually USING that SPDIF digital coax to go INTO a processor of some kind for car audio.
For instance, the Alpine H701 doesn't take SPDIF DIGITAL in only SPDIF OPTICAL (tos-link).
There are two different kinds of SPDIF here:
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The most common connector used with an S/PDIF interface is the RCA connector, the same one used for consumer audio products. An optical connector is also sometimes used.
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# Sony Philips Digital IntferFace. This comes in two forms digital caxial (RCA) and digital optical D-link - Denon link. A higher quality digital interface that can be used for digital transfer of LPCM, DD, DTS and DVD-Audio. It can also be used for SACD, but not yet as Denon is still waiting on a licence for this I-link - Also known as IEE 1394 or Firewire. A higher quality digital interface that can be used for digital transfer of LPCM, DD, DTS, DVD-Audio and SACD Feel free to correct me if I didn't get it all. I
www.avtalk.co.uk/forum/index.php
# S/PDIF or S/P-DIF, for Sony/Philips Digital Interconnect Format (also IEC 958 type II, part of IEC-60958), is a system for carrying stereo digital audio signals between various devices and stereo components. S/PDIF is primarily used with CD players (and DVD players playing CDs), and it is becoming common on other audio components like MiniDiscs and modern computer audio cards. It is also popular in car audio, where the former mess of wiring can be replaced with a single fibre optic cable, which
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spdif
now if someone has found a piece int he car audio world that will take digital SPDIF IN, I'd love to see it. Please post it up! I'd be interested to see what is avaliable.
Otherwise you are getting into professional audio equipment.
something like these:
http://www.driverack.com/products.htm
which, btw, there is a way to convert that over to run on 12volt. Its something that I have considered doing in my car...but I'm probably going to wait until the next build/nedw car comes around to do that.
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08-01-2005, 09:07 AM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: NYC
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The red light on the TOS-Link connector is much prettier than that digital coax plug.
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08-01-2005, 12:54 PM
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lol
sure, if you want to use that as a deciding factor, you go right ahead...hehehe
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08-01-2005, 02:05 PM
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Jupiter!!!!!! FL.
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Audiobahn ADD51T 1/2 din Car 5.1 surround decoder with optical and Coxaial Digital Inputs.
http://www.audiobahn.com/products/20...rocessors.html
We are using them in two vehicles, A Escalade and a Honda S-2000
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08-01-2005, 02:15 PM
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mkay - but it's audiobahn...ICK!
but it is a product that has the capabilities of taking in a SPDIF digital RCA signal...
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08-01-2005, 02:36 PM
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FLAC
Join Date: May 2001
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You can convert the optical digital to coaxial digital and vise versa. From what I understand it's the same unprocessed signal just different physical connections. I have home A/V equipment that have both and they work exactly the same.
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08-01-2005, 02:37 PM
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yes - you can, but converting should be kept to a minimum to preserve the original signal integrity
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08-01-2005, 02:39 PM
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Underachiever
Join Date: Jul 2004
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True, but do you lose anything when in a digital signal?
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08-01-2005, 02:44 PM
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no - not significantly, but I'd keep it all to a minimum
the point of my original post wasn't to find out if you could convert it or not though....that's a given....
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08-01-2005, 02:46 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Quote: Originally Posted by ppgt94
You can convert the optical digital to coaxial digital and vise versa. From what I understand it's the same unprocessed signal just different physical connections. I have home A/V equipment that have both and they work exactly the same.
but the red light is prettier AND travels at the speed of light!!!! With one of these, you're future-proof. Won't have to worry about upgrading when optic-based ICs come to mass production.
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08-01-2005, 02:53 PM
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and red is a purdy color!
hehe
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08-03-2005, 12:40 AM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Bay Area, California
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dont forget the denford 8250Ti for digital spdif in.....
you can pull that up on google images by searching for rockford fosgate 8250. and you dont get the luxury of calling it RF equipment... thats a denon radio 
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08-03-2005, 07:02 AM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 58
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I ran one of those 8250ti's for awhile, a great no frills deck I absolutely loved it. And with that original closeout a year ago or so they could be had for a song! I've since sold it and got a 7990 but the 8250's are very good bang for the buck!
Yeah you can can convert toslink to coax and vise versa pretty easily. the converter does require a 12v power source though.
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08-15-2005, 12:47 AM
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Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2005
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My eclipse 8454 has a digital coax input and output.
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