Why not PC speakers? - Page 5

H4T · 04-07-2006, 02:48 PM

Has anyone here actually gone out and tried this yet? I'm not an audiophile, I don't care if the quality is incredible...I just want music. My car is crap, it has two speakers in the back and one's blown out, so PC speakers seem the best option for me. I'm probably going to try this, but I just wanted to know if anyone has actually done this themselves and seen if the quality is as unbelievably low as people proclaim it would be.

fooshizn1x · 04-07-2006, 02:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by H4T

Has anyone here actually gone out and tried this yet? I'm not an audiophile, I don't care if the quality is incredible...I just want music. My car is crap, it has two speakers in the back and one's blown out, so PC speakers seem the best option for me. I'm probably going to try this, but I just wanted to know if anyone has actually done this themselves and seen if the quality is as unbelievably low as people proclaim it would be.

dude.. seriously.. dont get us started again. You can buy even a cheap pair of whatever size speakers you have right now for like $29 to replace the blown out crappies if your that cheap.. dont make us put you in a room with the mac people

H4T · 04-07-2006, 03:04 PM

Wow, I thought this place was supposed to be helpful. Sorry for having a legitimate question, I'll try not to from now on.

I'm a computer person, not a car person at all, I don't even want to know how to wire up car speakers to my computer; it probably means buying more crap I don't need. Just want the music. I'll figure it out, so nevermind this post.

checksum · 04-07-2006, 03:16 PM

If you are running a PC in your car, then it should work just fine IMO.

I am planning on doing it anyway, and I beleive the sound quality only depends on the quality of the speakers you are using, listening to them in your car or in your house will now make a big difference.
Find good mounting spots in your car, try to mount them tightly so they won't move a lot and get you a decent inverter to power them.

Let me know if you have any question, I have everything planned on how I am going to do it.

H4T · 04-07-2006, 03:23 PM

Thank you very much, Checksum!

Yeah, my car is a teeny tinny junker, so I'm going to be basically taping my speakers between chairs and behind the head rests of the backseats, and one on the dash, haha. As for the power issue, yeah it kind of sucks....with speakers I'll effectively be about doubling the power consumption of my system, but its ok....better to buy a stronger inverter than a 300 dollar bling bling audio system, haha.

Thanks for posting, I'm looking forward to your results...I'm still gathering parts for my computer, so I'll let you know how it goes for me if you let me know how it goes for you, haha.

TruckinMP3 · 04-07-2006, 03:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by H4T

Wow, I thought this place was supposed to be helpful. Sorry for having a legitimate question, I'll try not to from now on.

I'm a computer person, not a car person at all, I don't even want to know how to wire up car speakers to my computer; it probably means buying more crap I don't need. Just want the music. I'll figure it out, so nevermind this post.

You asked without reading or actually understanding the thread.
You got what you asked for... an answer.

Try it... find out for your self.

TruckinMP3 · 04-07-2006, 03:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by H4T

Thank you very much, Checksum!

Yeah, my car is a teeny tinny junker, so I'm going to be basically taping my speakers between chairs and behind the head rests of the backseats, and one on the dash, haha. As for the power issue, yeah it kind of sucks....with speakers I'll effectively be about doubling the power consumption of my system, but its ok....better to buy a stronger inverter than a 300 dollar bling bling audio system, haha.

Thanks for posting, I'm looking forward to your results...I'm still gathering parts for my computer, so I'll let you know how it goes for me if you let me know how it goes for you, haha.

It is nice you will thank the one person who agrees with you...

But I guess the rest of us are just wrong and have no basis in real world experiance or technical skills.

tj!2k4 · 04-07-2006, 03:29 PM

checksum · 04-07-2006, 03:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by H4T

Thank you very much, Checksum!

As for the power issue, yeah it kind of sucks....with speakers I'll effectively be about doubling the power consumption of my system, but its ok....better to buy a stronger inverter than a 300 dollar bling bling audio system, haha.

Not as much as putting 2 car amplifiers, you should be fine.

Check out my post here about the power issue (because these are the 470W power speakers I am about to get) :
http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/thread/709119.aspx

H4T · 04-07-2006, 03:36 PM

@TruckinMP3: I don't like it when people say "this is right" or "this is wrong" and then just go, "trust us." I don't trust you. I don't trust him.

I read this entire thread, and everyone wants great quality audio. Anything less than crystal clear to you technical experts is rubbish.

My question was not "is this a good idea," my question was, "has anyone tried this yet?" I want to know from actual testing if this idea is worth a shot. You guys just tell me to not even try, then bash me for being an idiot and a n00b, but you don't tell me anything useful. Yes, I know this system will not be as good as a real car audio setup, but thats not what I was asking.

I respect you for your knowledge and insight, but you don't care to understand the situation. I don't care if my setup is less than perfect, as long as its better than a setup of two tiny speakers in the back of the car that crackle when I turn my volume up or down.

Thanks for posting, but in all due respect, just let us give it a shot and we'll tell you how it goes, alright?

@Checksum: Great link, looks like you and I think alike, hah. Just so I am clear on this, the bottom line of that conservation you had was that at normal load (about half or so volume on the speakers), you would only draw about 10W or so, increasing exponentially as you raise the volume? How far would you reckon on the volume scale is too far?

TruckinMP3 · 04-07-2006, 03:50 PM

Several examples of why are in this thread.

You do not like them ? I do understand... you still did not "get" the examples and reasons as explained...

Fine, Go do it! Prove it was a good answer for your needs.

Here is your shot... Take it already!

Fine, Go do it! Prove it was a good answer for your needs.

Yes, several of us have said that before.... and will continue to say it.

Fine, Go do it! Prove it was a good answer for your needs.

Do you have results yet? Why not? You wanted your shot, don't miss it.

Mandos · 04-07-2006, 04:03 PM

Home/PC speakers is a mistake quite a few people in car audio made when they were 16 and "just wanted sound" in the car.

Every single person who has done this will tell you they now feel like an idiot for having done it...and it sounds like utter garbage.

Car speakers and home speakers are designed for TOTALLY different environments....if you think a car won't make it sound different than a house, go ahead and do it. There are different types of speakers for a reason...it's not like you go buy a professional PA system for a van just because it's bigger than a civic....

Hopefully, after actually doing it, one day a few years down the road, you can look back on the experience and have a good laugh

chuyler1 · 04-07-2006, 04:03 PM

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I read this entire thread, and everyone wants great quality audio. Anything less than crystal clear to you technical experts is rubbish.

Untrue. I'm positive the comparison between stock car speakers and these PC speakers has come up more than once. Most of us audiophile geniuses will all agree that stock is rubbish...but we also agree that they sound better than sticking a bunch fo 2" full range speakers in your car from a PC speaker set.

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My question was not "is this a good idea," my question was, "has anyone tried this yet?" I want to know from actual testing if this idea is worth a shot.

Once upon a time I had 3.5" speakers in my car. They sucked. I installed 6.5" speakers instead. They rocked! There you go. small speakers suck and big speakers rock.

There are two issues with PC solutions.

1) the speakers are small and rely heavily on the subwoofer...which is designed to be mounted close by in an open room. Throwing the sub in the trunk and these tiny speakers around your car is simply not the same as listening to them in your home. You've got road noise that eats up bass and wind noise drowns out treble.

2) Powering these requires a DC to AC converter but then the unit itself probably converts it back to DC. This is highly inefficient.

Perhaps all of us has thought about it in the past...but we went through numbers, and other things that audiophiles do...and determined that the car audio industry has a better grasp on putting speakers in cars than the pc audio industry.

I know its a tough conclusion to comprehend but that is our combined official opinion. You can take it as is...or you can go and install your PC speakers in your car and let us know how it turns out.

checksum · 04-07-2006, 04:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by H4T

@Checksum: Great link, looks like you and I think alike, hah. Just so I am clear on this, the bottom line of that conservation you had was that at normal load (about half or so volume on the speakers), you would only draw about 10W or so, increasing exponentially as you raise the volume? How far would you reckon on the volume scale is too far?

That's true, but this is specific to these promedia 5.1 speakers, it might be different for your speakers, but not that much, check the specs on your speakers.
Have you ever listened to these speakers? These speakers are rated at 470W with a deep rich bass, so I doubt you will ever need to raise the volume past 1/4 in your car, which will draw a little bit less then 2A from the battery.
I have a set of old 5.1 speakers in my house, and I have never raised the volume past 1/2, and since the car is more confined you should get more crispt,loud and clear sound out of your speakers.

Quote:

Hopefully, after actually doing it, one day a few years down the road, you can look back on the experience and have a good laugh

We will see who will have the last laugh

Ub312g0d · 04-07-2006, 04:48 PM

Ok, first off I own Klipsch promedia 4.1's so I know how the sound and I have heard 5.1 ultra's on multiple occasions. These speakers are great for computer use but I would never want them in my car. They most deffinitely need the sub to get any low end at all and to be honest its not even the best bass coming from these things, there is often port noise with any decent volume but overall decent speakers, just not good for the car. Now I have I tried these in my car? No but I cant see them beating even car speakers worth half their cost when in a car. My buddy ran some 5.1 creative speakers in his car for a bit when his headunit broke and while it technically allowed him to play music is was quiet, tinny, and just downright awful sounding. I would only see using computer speakers in a car as an absoulte last resort. You can buy damn cheap car speakers and a cheap HU that would give out better sound than any computer speakers close in the price range, be that range $50 or $300.

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