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04-28-2006, 12:26 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Virginia
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Quote: Originally Posted by Vinister
What if we could use the PC as the controller, like we do with the XM tuners? What if we could devise a USB --> H701 cable? Wouldn't that be the holy grail?
Anything that uses an IR remote can easily be controlled by PC. Can't the H701 controller use the Alpine IR remote? If so, that's the easiest way. I'm not sure the various AI-net efforts have gotten anywhere yet.
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Last edited by fonseca; 04-28-2006 at 12:28 AM.
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04-28-2006, 12:36 AM
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#122
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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The h701 cant be controlled with a remote, that would have been nice though
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04-28-2006, 08:22 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Quote: Originally Posted by Vinister
Hmmm I had another idea. I used to dabble around in producing techno music quite a bit. I mostly used a program called propellerheads reason. Its an amazingly fun program to work with, extremely visual, sounds great, and can be had for free at the usual places.
Good suggestion. Unfortunately, the product's eq (at least in the latest 3.0 software) appears to be 4-band parametric...not the 1/3 octave that we're looking for. And, for the non-pirating folks, the price tag...$500. If all you wanted was a 4-band parametric, Anwida's stand-alone EQ is only $100.
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04-28-2006, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Little Elm, Texas
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my problem with software is just that it's hard to work with, especially on a 7-8" screen.
Having to tune a system with so many different controlls on screen and do it on a small screen, would be a nightmare.
I'd LOVE to see this work, but I'm just thinking about implementation.
Other than remoting in and changing settings, it just seems like it's going to be a PITA.
I'd LOVE to be able to controll the Alpine via the PC, but again, it would have to be made incredibly simple. Touching and dragging just won't cut it. It won't be easy to be exact with what you want.
Have these thoughts crossed anyone elses mind?
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04-28-2006, 09:44 AM
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#125
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 316
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You think using the controller that comes with the H701 is simple? I've been so lost in those menus trying to set everything up properly, always guessing which button does what. IMO Alpine knows nothing at all about intuitive user interfaces. The only good thing about the controller is that at least it features a volume knob.
I downloaded the anwida EQ and found it to be a pretty cool tool, even though I couldnt get it to work properly. There was no way for me to seperate the raw sound playing from the EQ'd sound, so it was just stacking up and giving me crazy feedback. Buuuut.... I ended up playing around with making crazy computer feedback sounds for an hour, filtering them this way and that. zzzzrrrrrrmmmmmmwwwwwoommmmwowoooommmwooooommmm... .. fun stuff.
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04-28-2006, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Little Elm, Texas
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Quote: Originally Posted by Vinister
You think using the controller that comes with the H701 is simple? I've been so lost in those menus trying to set everything up properly, always guessing which button does what. IMO Alpine knows nothing at all about intuitive user interfaces. The only good thing about the controller is that at least it features a volume knob.
once you know what you are doing, it's a VERy simple piece to use, more intuitive than a LOT of others out there on the market right now.
Compared to trying to make adjustments on a 7-8" touchscreen with a bunch of sliders, yes, it's a LOT more simple.
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04-28-2006, 10:18 AM
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#127
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 316
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I dont know if I agree. I've worked with dozens of H701s and I've hated every minute of it.
Maybe you should consider a better input device for your computer. A ball mouse flushed into the center console, for example, changes everything. On screen sliders and knobs can be great.
I've been working with the new Zapco amps recently, they have no adjustments on the chassis, everything is done through a USB connection to your laptop (or carpc).
edit... check out this zapco peice. programmed by an incredibly nice app for PC. It gives you full control right onscreen.
http://www.zapco.com/prod/DC_Ref/DSP_DRC_Frame.htm
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04-28-2006, 10:28 AM
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A ball mouse would be incredibly finicky IMO.
Focal has something similar out now to the Zapco.
We're just waiting for a production run to be avaliable...have some to a team member for testing in the near future.
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04-28-2006, 12:08 PM
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#129
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles Ca
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would that run in the background?
and does it have a crossover?
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04-28-2006, 12:48 PM
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#130
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Little Elm, Texas
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which one? Focal or Zapco?
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04-29-2006, 12:02 AM
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#131
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Aug 2004
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The zapco one gives lets you specify your crossover points, slopes, and gives you a graphic view of what's happening. Same for the EQ. The software is very solid, well developped, and straightforward to use.
we're also eagerly awaiting the new Focal amps. Big chunks of machined audio sex....
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04-29-2006, 07:59 AM
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#132
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Location: Little Elm, Texas
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06-08-2006, 02:56 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Massachusetts
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Did anyone follow through with any of the sofware suggestions in this thread? I'm just curious to see if people found a solution that works for them.
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06-08-2006, 03:04 PM
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#134
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Little Elm, Texas
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I know I didn't
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07-14-2006, 09:23 PM
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#135
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Armidale NSW Australia
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I know Red and Scott have seen this, but I wanted to subscribe to this thread, so I thought I'd put this here as well, in case anyone on this thread has any ideas on how to make this possible.
(What are we trying to make possible? Sending a multiple channel signal out from the carPC through a SPDIF output, preferably through a single cable, to a device that takes the signal and converts it to multiple channels of Analogue RCA output, high voltage, to go straight into the amps. 5 or more stereo channels would be ideal. Hope that makes sense... Should solve the hardware side of things if it works...)
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...=40351&page=28
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