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07-16-2006, 04:09 PM
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FLAC
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Quote: Originally Posted by 306
yea.. the amp is givin them 250w max.... but 195 rms
250wMAX and 195wRMS?
WTF, do you know what you're talking about?
rofl 
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07-16-2006, 04:12 PM
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FLAC
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Quote: Originally Posted by 306
ok wants a good amp for ... round £100???
there isn't any.
you know what? UTFS! (Use The *****in' Search that is, if you wouldn't know)
edit: go to your local shop, tell the guy what you're looking for, tell 'em what your budget is and he'll give you something. don't expect us to spoonfed you on what to buy or how things work.
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07-16-2006, 04:42 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
btw - can you tell me (if there are any) what the fuses on the side of the amp say?
can you answer this?
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07-16-2006, 04:47 PM
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let him figure out the hard way red. he'll soon enough find out his amp wont pull much longer.
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07-16-2006, 11:37 PM
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whoa whoa guys...he's not being an *** just trying to learn. take it easy on him.
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07-17-2006, 01:19 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blaenavon
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Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
can you answer this?
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Head unit - Pioneer - DEH-P6400R
Speakers - componant sets up front, 2x mutant 2way in rear.
Amps - 2x 500w
Subs - 2x 12" 500w 50oz
90% dun.. need screen :~
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07-17-2006, 01:23 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
btw - can you tell me (if there are any) what the fuses on the side of the amp say?
Yea theres a 30A
an the amp is runnin off a 4gauge stinger kit with a 100A inline fuse
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Head unit - Pioneer - DEH-P6400R
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Amps - 2x 500w
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07-17-2006, 06:42 AM
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FLAC
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Assuming 100% efficiency, which that amp is NOWHERE near, probably 40-50% efficient, you're producing a MAX of 432W at 14.4V.
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07-17-2006, 06:46 AM
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30 amps x 12 volts x 70% efficiency (that's being extremely generous on that amp if it's not a class D) = 252 watts per amp (not per side, but per amp)
no denying those numbers. There's no way you're getting 500 watts out of those amps, I even doubt that you would get 500 watts on a short burst.
and 100A fusing?
absolutely not doing a damn bit of good other than protecting the wire...but even then, it's not doing much good protecting a 4 gauge wire, you'd need around 2 gauge for a 100 amp fuse to be protecting the wire when we're talking about lengths in a car.
30 amps x 2 amplifiers = 60 amps of fusing. You shouldn't have much more than 60 amps of fusing on that power line. (again, that's if you're running 2 of those amplifiers)
By running a 100A fuse, you aren't protecting anything. HOWEVER, kudos on at least fusing the power wire!
and scott, you're right, I'm just rather annoyed at newbies that seriously think their **** is right yet when you crunch the numbers, it doesn't even come close to what they are claiming. I'm just tired of running into it over and over again. I know it's not this guys fault, I just wish more people would do a bit of research before purchasing things. Lost of money being blown down the drain.
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07-17-2006, 10:21 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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30A x 12V = 360W... thats 180W per channel
i didnt say i was getting 500W from them amps... just sayin thats wa they say on there... i didnt say i was gettin 500w out of them...
and as for me avin cheap amps... i cant aford to spend 700 on a nice amp... and if i did i wouldnt have no windows left.. its only a little 306... i only want the amps to last for a while till i get the money to go powerfull..
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Head unit - Pioneer - DEH-P6400R
Speakers - componant sets up front, 2x mutant 2way in rear.
Amps - 2x 500w
Subs - 2x 12" 500w 50oz
90% dun.. need screen :~
Last edited by 306 : 07-17-2006 at 10:25 AM.
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07-17-2006, 10:38 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by 306
30A x 12V = 360W... thats 180W per channel
you're assuming the amps are 100% efficient. Which is an incorrect assumption.
hence my accounting for it inmy post 70% is a rather generous number too.
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and as for me avin cheap amps... i cant aford to spend 700 on a nice amp... and if i did i wouldnt have no windows left.. its only a little 306... i only want the amps to last for a while till i get the money to go powerfull..
that's fine, we were all there at one point in time. Buy you also don't have to spend $700 to get a good product. $200 would get you a nice amplifier! You're just falling into this thing where you see say, $100 for 500 watts, or $200 for 250 watts...if it were that simple I'd see why you made the choice you did, but it's not that simple, thus the reason I'm trying to tell you why it's not a good amp.
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07-17-2006, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blaenavon
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the only reason i have them is coz i got them verycheap..
im lookin to spend 100 pound on a amp... i was goin to go with kicker or rockford.. but there way to much money...
im presuming it will sound better to have mached brands??? or not ??
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Head unit - Pioneer - DEH-P6400R
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Amps - 2x 500w
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07-17-2006, 10:45 AM
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matched brands don't make a lick of difference in all reality.
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07-17-2006, 10:54 AM
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after dissing my ****te amps... wa u think of wats runin them ???
JVC KD-G521
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Head unit - Pioneer - DEH-P6400R
Speakers - componant sets up front, 2x mutant 2way in rear.
Amps - 2x 500w
Subs - 2x 12" 500w 50oz
90% dun.. need screen :~
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07-17-2006, 11:02 AM
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in all honesty? I'm not the person to ask that.
I have my own standards that I have set for myself. I have held myself to those standards and it has gotten me a long way.
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