Need wiring help for 2005 Grand Prix. - Page 2

derekmac · 11-16-2006, 08:05 PM

tyman, thanks for all the info. One question though, what do you mean by hush panel? I do have a good digital multimeter. Couldn't I just splice into the acc line off of the stereo?

What about the onstar module, is there anything off of that that I could use?

I didn't realize that it was going to be this big of a pain just to run a remote turn on lead

scott_fx · 11-16-2006, 08:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by derekmac

Couldn't I just splice into the acc line off of the stereo?

if it's active then yes, thats the best place to do it, but i thought you said it wasn't active? if you get the rap/onstar module then it should reactivate the acc lead iirc

derekmac · 11-16-2006, 08:47 PM

when I first tested it, I had everything unplugged, and by the sounds of it, having everything unhooked turns the acc wire off. I'm using the factory deck, so I shouldn't need any other modules correct? The system works the way it should when it's all hooked up, everything stays on when the key is removed until the door is opened, and the stereo won't turn on until the key is turned on.

Just to make sure I don't hurt anything, when testing for the acc wire with the multimeter, put the negitive terminal on the ground then try the different wires? What setting should the meter be on?

scott_fx · 11-16-2006, 08:54 PM

oh... if you're keeping the head unit then yeah, just tap off hte acc lead. set the multimeter to dc voltage and you should be good to go.

tyman · 11-17-2006, 03:15 PM

Derekmac
The hush panel is the panel directly under the driver's side dash. Use a bosh 5 connector style relay and connect as follows: ploe 85-ground,pole 86-accy(from connector at bcm), pole 30-+12v battery from bcm,pole 87-to amp turn on connector. This way the amp will turn on and off with the ign key. And you will not damage any control modules.
The factory radio is controled by class2 data line and therefore there is no accy voltage at the radio. The electronics in your vehicle are very delicate.
If you need anymore help just pm or ask here.
peace.

scott_fx · 11-18-2006, 03:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tyman

The factory radio is controled by class2 data line and therefore there is no accy voltage at the radio.
peace.

wow... things are getting more and more complicated. thanks for the 411, i didnt know things had progressed tot hat level

derekmac · 11-18-2006, 08:51 PM

tell me about it, gone are the good old days of quick and easy wiring. I think I'll put a toggle switch in the center console to turn the amp on and off, the wife doesn't really care to have the sub anyway.

spoonraker · 11-19-2006, 01:26 AM

This might help as well

http://www.installdr.com/Harnesses/GM-Wiring.pdf

LaxPlaya8513 · 11-19-2006, 01:55 AM

^^ Wrong wiring, that's for pre data line wiring. Hold on, let me see if i have access to the wiring information for the GMOS04

LaxPlaya8513 · 11-19-2006, 01:58 AM

For rem turnon power, the pink line in the ign harness (under dash, should be a larger wire) is switched 12v.

Left Rear + Brown
Left Rear - Yellow

Right Rear + Dark Blue
Right Rear - Light Blue

turbocad6 · 11-19-2006, 09:25 AM

isn't there also a turn-on right out of the radio for power antenna too that could be used? pretty sure there is.... if you use the pink ign then you'll have no power in accessory or while in rap....

tyman · 11-19-2006, 09:44 AM

The vehicle in an'05 there is not an option for power ant from factory, so no turn on lead. The way I described a sollution is the easiest.

LaxPlaya8513 · 11-19-2006, 11:33 AM

^^ either way, the ignition line in those cars are huge. Last i checked they're 10ga, i forget but that was a month or two ago. He doesn't need to run a relay, the rem. turnon doesn't draw that much current.

And i meant to tap into the wire, not completely disconnect it

turbocad6 · 11-19-2006, 01:08 PM

...yeah, but from what I normally find, even if a particular car don't have a power antenna, the radio itself usually does have a terminal, even if theres no lead in the plug... as the same radio can be used in many different models.... don't know about 05's though tbh... but no power antenna option don't always mean the radio has no lead for it...

your way can never be "the best" way, simply because "the best" way wouldn't keep the amp on while the radio is off.... not saying that's terible, but not the best either... the best way will have the amp come on after the radio to avoid turn on pop....

derekmac · 11-19-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

the best way will have the amp come on after the radio to avoid turn on pop....

That's what I would like to have, the amp only come on after the radio is turned on. I guess that it wouldn't really matter if it came on as soon as the key is turned on since the radio is rarely turned off, but turn on pop can be annoying.

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