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06-23-2007, 04:41 AM
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Pricing
Quote: Originally Posted by veetid 
We make no extra money with the XLE version from the SE version, it's all cost we pay to Destinator...
As we increase our volume the prices can hopefully come down, as well as you can purchase during the initial month with the discount code...
You can also use your own navigation solution such as MapPoint or iGuidance...
david
Great idea thats is, let the first ones be penalised buy paying more so that the followers will profit.
are you family with bill gates or what.
bring the prices down and you will sell more. (i ain't buying at that price, and i am sure i am not the only one.)
i love your product but hey looking at the other free alternatives,, come on you must be joking. 
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06-23-2007, 07:29 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Texas
Vehicle: 2002 Honda Accord EX-L V6 Sedan
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Im no expert so take this for what its worth to you.
Most companies exist for the purpose of making a profit. Companies (no matter how big or small) invest more time and resources in creating a product or service than might be apparent to the consumer.
I dont know the specifics regarding Flux Media's size or number of investors, business partners, and general operating costs. But I can assume that the people involved in creating Centrafuse have a reasonable expectation to get a return on their investment.
As far as having a higher initial price is concerened.. Many entertainment products are more expensive when they are first introduced. Look at DVD players and flat panel monitors. RAM, Hard drives, Graphics cards, CPUs... They all drop in price over time. Its not some evil plan to screw everyone, its just business.
Its in everyones best interest that Flux Media is successful with Centrafuse. If they dont make any money the level of support will be sparce, improvements to the software will be sporatic if any at all. I would be more ticked off if I bought the product and they went out of business than if I bought it and they lowered the price.
If Flux is successful with this, other investors may see this and move to create their own product to get a piece of the pie. With that competition you could possibly see even more choices and lower prices.
I can understand where you are coming from. I see the the situation from the consumer perspective, but I can also see it on a more global perspective.
Quote: Originally Posted by Mossy69mp3 
Great idea thats is, let the first ones be penalised buy paying more so that the followers will profit.
are you family with bill gates or what.
bring the prices down and you will sell more. (i ain't buying at that price, and i am sure i am not the only one.)
i love your product but hey looking at the other free alternatives,, come on you must be joking. 
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06-23-2007, 10:52 AM
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#63
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mossy69mp3 
Great idea thats is, let the first ones be penalised buy paying more so that the followers will profit.
are you family with bill gates or what.
bring the prices down and you will sell more. (i ain't buying at that price, and i am sure i am not the only one.)
i love your product but hey looking at the other free alternatives,, come on you must be joking. 
if you want the free alternatives, you can easily have them along with all their bugs and glitches. if you want CF, the people at flux deserve to get their time's worth. keep in mind, its been in development for 3 years, and david is on here providing support and debugging 12 hrs a day on some days. thats roughly $150k just for him, if you calculate using a very modest $20/hr. people's time is NOT free.
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06-23-2007, 03:07 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by hari-bhari 
if you want the free alternatives, you can easily have them along with all their bugs and glitches.
Haha I was trying to resist going there but that IS what I was thinking. I just used a different approach instead.
But yea what you said, 
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06-24-2007, 04:11 AM
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Im no expert so take this for what its worth to you.
Most companies exist for the purpose of making a profit. Companies (no matter how big or small) invest more time and resources in creating a product or service than might be apparent to the consumer.
I dont know the specifics regarding Flux Media's size or number of investors, business partners, and general operating costs. But I can assume that the people involved in creating Centrafuse have a reasonable expectation to get a return on their investment.
Hey i can only agree with you to a certain point we all want to make profit but you have to analise the market and the the eventual making cost.
here in my small town me and a friend have been for the last two years been developping liquid chicken ***** i doubt we will get away with 200€ the bottle 
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Last edited by Mossy69mp3 : 06-24-2007 at 04:13 AM.
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06-24-2007, 08:20 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mossy69mp3 
Hey i can only agree with you to a certain point we all want to make profit but you have to analise the market and the the eventual making cost.
here in my small town me and a friend have been for the last two years been developping liquid chicken ***** i doubt we will get away with 200€ the bottle 
Im sure that Flux Media has anal yzed the market for the software they are offering. SE is only $124 which for most people only equates to about the price of 2-3 tanks of fuel. If you want the navigation software, you pay an addtional amount for that since Flux is just passing that cost on to the end user.
Liquid chicken ***** is not likely to command the same revenue that computer software will. Good luck with that endeavor though. 
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06-26-2007, 08:55 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Dorset, UK
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Good on Flux for finally making the software available to buy though.
And it's analy sed. 
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06-26-2007, 10:49 AM
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#68
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06-26-2007, 12:39 PM
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analyse analyse analyse analyse analyse
analyse analyse analyse analyse analyse
sorry but i wonder how well you will do in french....
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06-26-2007, 01:18 PM
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omg... how off topic can you go :s
this is an international forum, people trying their best to write english in every way they can... so who cares if it's anylised, analysed, analyzed or analized (or watherver!)
as long as we know what people are trying to say...
now, 
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06-26-2007, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Detroit, MI
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mossy69mp3 
analyse analyse analyse analyse analyse
analyse analyse analyse analyse analyse
sorry but i wonder how well you will do in french....
I've been looking at your other comments for a few days now.
Who are you to criticize David and his company for a VERY REASONABLE price? It is YOU who obviously does not know the current telematics market, are you kidding me? 3+ years of ongoing development and you think these prices are unreasonable? Obviously you are not a programmer or systems developer and have NO CLUE what goes into building something like this...
Last edited by smeesseman : 06-30-2007 at 02:00 PM.
Reason: Took out some nastiness...
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06-26-2007, 01:52 PM
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FLAC
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA
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Whether or not a price it too high is purely subjective. Mossy, if you think it's too expensive, don't buy it, and go away.
Everyone else, if you're willing to pay the price for the software, buy it, and let's continue to contribute positively and productively to this community to help David et al make this the best front-end software out there. In doing so, it's usually best to ignore the people who offer nothing more than criticism and negativity. They usually just want a reaction, and ignoring them typically makes them go away.
One more thing, going off what DJ NRG said, I can't speak or write a word of any language other than English. Until the day arrives that I can, I will be damned if I catch myself criticizing anyone else's usages/spelling of the English language, when they took the time and effort to learn a 2nd language in the first place. But that's just me.
*Ching, Ching* (the sound of two pennies hitting the table).
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06-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dj-[NRG] 
omg... how off topic can you go :s
this is an international forum, people trying their best to write english in every way they can... so who cares if it's anylised, analysed, analyzed or analized (or watherver!)
as long as we know what people are trying to say...
now, 
I will use the classic forum excuse and say "I think I was drunk when I posted that"

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06-30-2007, 10:50 AM
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#74
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I agree with Nola111, I've been using Centrafuse for over a year now and its fantastic, and has so far been free for testing.
Its well developed and has had without a doubt a hell of a lot of hours dedicated to this development. Its now time we cough up and pay the man for his brilliantly handy software.
I say well done what a bargain.
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06-30-2007, 12:14 PM
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FLAC
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Conyers, GA
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While the pricing is still very competitive in my mind (at least vs the cost of an all-in-one standalone system), I still want to ask, is there still a discount in mind or not? If not, then fine, I can understand that, but a definitive answer would be appreciated.
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