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Old 10-20-2008, 08:18 PM   #16
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ok, I got it now, I understood how this works. took me a while
I repeat, really great work Perilous
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:57 AM   #17
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I've got an odd problem with my install........ not sure what's going on.

I've tried the default coordinates and it does something similar.

If I start GMPC, everything seems to be OK, but if I move the mouse to the top of the screen it disappears and goes back to the CF main screen, then I click to start GMPC again and it pops up where it was almost instantly so I know it's not stopping GMPC but just minimising it......... I don't have to click or do anything other than move the mouse up the screen.

For instance in the default settings if I get to just about where the Garmin title is you click for the OSK, then go just over that towards the top it just disappers.

I tried changing the coordinates so that GMPC took the whole of the screen other than the bottom buttons from CF (same coordinates as when OSK is visable) and it displays perfectly and locates where it should, but again when I get the mouse to the same location up the screen, it disappears............ any ideas ?
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:24 AM   #18
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lucky for you yesterday I figured out exaclty how this works
I'm going to comment the GarminCentrafuseHelperApps.reg to make it simple

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\GARMINCFMONITOR]

"left"="0"
"right"="0"
"top"="0"
"bottom"="0"

these 4 valuse define an area of the screen which forces gmpc to go to background, on MOUSEOVER event, not mouse click, only mouse over. In a touchscreen environment it's about the same thing, but with a mouse it's not

"zone2enable"="1"
"left2"="728"
"right2"="800"
"top2"="520"
"bottom2"="600"

it you set zone2enable=1, it enables another area of the screen with exactly the same function as the other. Mouse over it and garmin goes background.

"DEBUG"="0"
"TOOLTIPS"="0"

nothing useful here

"GarminNavigatorWindowSizePosition"="0,0,800,4 90"

this defines the area of the screen that gmpc will be using by default in normal use, covering the centrafuse main window and staying foreground until the mouseover event occours

"GarminNavigatorWindowSizePositionOSK"="0,0,800,45 0"

this defines the area this defines the area of the screen that gmpc will be using when the osk is active

"ActivateOSK"="0,0,700,45"

this defines the area of the screen where you have to CLICK to make the OSK visible. Here you need a click not a mouseover event

"APPPATH"="c:\\GarminMobilePC\\Que.exe"
"APPNAME"="Garmin Mobile PC"
"APPWORKINGDIR"="c:\\GarminMobilePC"

I think this explains itself well
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As you can see I defined the first mouseover zone to ZERO to avoid the mouseover on the top of the window, I also defined zone2 with the coordinates of the CF EXIT button on the lower right corner of the screen, and in CF configuration I forced the event on click of this button to NONE. I also customized the ActivateOSK area expanding it on the top border of the screen avoiding the top righe angle; doing this allows me to close and check satellite coverng without mess with the OSK
I hope I explained it well, if you have problems just let me know
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:11 AM   #19
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I think I came to an end in my quest for a good gmpc usability
using Perilout script in combination with Zero Weight KB I achieved optimal usability
- I run zwkb each time windows starts with this configuration

"zwkb.exe quiet NoTapBox NoBumpBox largespacebar size=800x600x125% foreground=28 background=39 TypingTransparency=15"

- I wrote a simple script which sends a RSHIFT event, which triggers zwkd and makes it appear on the screen.
- Named it PerilousOSK.exe and placed in the Garmin Helper Apps V1 folder, renaming the original file from Perilous.

Now when I start cf and then gmpc, it stays on top at near-fullscreen size, and when I click on the top bar zwkb appears and lets me control gmpc fine. No window resizing, no small keyboard appearing, no more messing up with frontend and so on
simply great
hope it helps
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:57 AM   #20
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I Just updated garmin to 5.0.50 and works perfectly, no problems at all
did you check GarminCentrafuseHelperApps.reg ? there are a couple of values to tweak, such as directory, exe and appname.. also remember to execute also keyboard.reg

Good to hear that it is working with 5.0.50. I did modify the reg files correctly. I will keep working on it! Thanks.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:58 AM   #21
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no problem check out my latest solution if you want, and let me know
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Old 10-21-2008, 03:35 PM   #22
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Quote: Originally Posted by Frankino View Post
"zwkb.exe quiet NoTapBox NoBumpBox largespacebar size=800x600x125% foreground=28 background=39 TypingTransparency=15"

@Frankino
where can I change these settings?
thx

I got it
thank you, good work

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Old 10-22-2008, 08:03 PM   #23
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Help me chang layout keyboard

Hi Frankino and guy...I can chang between language Eng and Thai by set change key sequence Cytl+Shift But I cannot change layout..Please suggest me.
Can you modify PerilousOSK.au3 to run with ZWKB.BAT


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Old 10-23-2008, 03:13 AM   #24
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zwkb is english only, sorry
I already pointed to you out what I think is the only solution in PM

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Quote: Originally Posted by anuchit
Hi Frankino.Can I chang keyboard to other language? Please help me. ( Thai language )

I think so, you have to
-edit keyboardletters.gif to get the right graphic
-edit keyboard.reg and change the letters
-edit PerilousOSK.au3 and change the letter in the GetKeyPress() function, then compile the the modified script using autoit (backup the old one)

it MIGHT work but I'm not sure
good work
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I was having problems getting this working, but I figured it out. When you add the application in CF, do not enter the application title (Garmin Mobile PC) in CF. CF absorbs it if you do, and then Perilous' utility can't find it. Once I figured that out, it works perfectly!

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Hi Guys
Great idea
I have it working but when i try use the osk i get an error

Error attached
Any ideas for me to try

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Stupid me i forgot the run keyboard.reg file

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Old 11-01-2008, 12:29 PM   #27
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glad you managed it
enjoy this good piece of software

Quote: Originally Posted by Jman View Post
Hi Guys
Great idea
I have it working but when i try use the osk i get an error

Error attached
Any ideas for me to try

Regards
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Stupid me i forgot the run keyboard.reg file

Thanks
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I've got an odd issue with my install. I had the same issue when I first installed on one of my car PC's, but then it seemed to go away and I wasn't sure why but it was working so I didn't bother to check further.

Now I've attempted an install on my second car PC and I've got the same error but it won't go away....... any ideas ???

When I try to start the Garminlauncher.exe application. When I enable debug it says waiting for app to initialize and then about 2 seconds later this comes up.



I've checked the registry and the pathing is correct so not sure why this error is showing up. Any tips on how to diagnose would be helpful.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:25 AM   #29
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IIRC it happened to me too when I set up wrong positioning for the window in the .reg file
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Nah it's not working. Tried using all of the settings from here just to make sure and still the same error. I have run the application to try and get the application title, but it comes up blank as someone else mentioned, not sure if that's what's causing it.
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