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02-07-2004, 09:29 AM
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FS: 10.4" Sunlight readable Super High Brightness 640x480 VGA TFT LCD 2000 nits ...
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02-07-2004, 10:06 AM
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'will sell for that or more cuz everyone is getting into car computers'
You overestimate our influence on the market. Good luck with the auctioning though! sounds like a sweet screen.
You didn't tell us what the resolution is, or if it's VGA or not...
I have a yahoo account, i was logged in, and i couldn't see any pictures.
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02-07-2004, 12:15 PM
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I was logged in, have a yahoo account and also saw no pictures....
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02-07-2004, 04:26 PM
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Sorry, yahoo is wierd.. i guess only i can see them ?!
im reuploading them to another server
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02-07-2004, 05:08 PM
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pics of the lcd http://jason.clanma.org/roman/
Quote: Originally Posted by robiewp
'will sell for that or more cuz everyone is getting into car computers'
You overestimate our influence on the market. Good luck with the auctioning though! sounds like a sweet screen.
You didn't tell us what the resolution is, or if it's VGA or not...
I have a yahoo account, i was logged in, and i couldn't see any pictures.
"You overestimate our influence on the market."
Thats just YOUR opinion, any custom LCD manufacturer/vendor will know the prices involved in building a sunlight readable unit. Soo much money is spent on engineering these you have no idea. Email them (earthlcd.com for example) and ask them why prices are so high on these high brightness models
pshh plzz.... look at what earthlcd.com is selling - complete junk - 100 nits of brightness 425 bucks http://earthlcd.com/sk2009R.htm
or their "new" high brightness (600nits) display $700 http://earthlcd.com/SK-5001R-HB.htm
Yeah, i dont really need to get into proving my point/justifying my price, cuz someone with adequate experience/knowledge of LCD's would understand how and why...
Anyways the pics are at " http://jason.clanma.org/roman/ " Make sure u have the last slash "/" behind roman otherwise it wont work...
-K110
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02-07-2004, 05:59 PM
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You have a good point. I myself have some sharp LQ10D346's that are the exact spec as these NEC's and they are a 640X480 VGA resolution with a 18 bit digital interface ae R0-R5, G0-G5, B0-B5 plus vert, horz, and clock. 3.3V or 5V. These are both great lcd screens because they come with NO backlight. And like you I agree that the 8 bulb setup make these babies great for displaying just about all types of moving pictures or even as a touch screen. Life span on the bulbs is at 20,000hrs normally. But the main cost is in the lcd and it matching display HW & not in the lcd backlights... oops also the invertors do cost a bit too.
My questions are as follows. 1st what volyage does this complete setup run on? 12VDC? My next question is the interface is it analog vga or digital or is it a composite input. Digital being DVI NOT the old digital vga that had 9 pins on a DB9M. Please advise as the answers are. Also how does the 262K colors compare to a normal 16million display.
Baggs
BTY the specs are in the datasheet that is linked to the ad. That is where I got the specs that I just posted. And they match my panels exactly except for the interface conector.
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02-07-2004, 06:48 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by JoyRidun
"You overestimate our influence on the market."
Thats just YOUR opinion, any custom LCD manufacturer/vendor will know the prices involved in building a sunlight readable unit. Soo much money is spent on engineering these you have no idea. Email them (earthlcd.com for example) and ask them why prices are so high on these high brightness models
pshh plzz.... look at what earthlcd.com is selling - complete junk - 100 nits of brightness 425 bucks http://earthlcd.com/sk2009R.htm
or their "new" high brightness (600nits) display $700 http://earthlcd.com/SK-5001R-HB.htm
Yeah, i dont really need to get into proving my point/justifying my price, cuz someone with adequate experience/knowledge of LCD's would understand how and why...
Anyways the pics are at " http://jason.clanma.org/roman/ " Make sure u have the last slash "/" behind roman otherwise it wont work...
-K110
Calm. I didn't say anything about your price, did I? I was commenting on the claim that car computers being so popular would determine it's worth.
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02-07-2004, 06:52 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggs
You have a good point. I myself have some sharp LQ10D346's that are the exact spec as these NEC's and they are a 640X480 VGA resolution with a 18 bit digital interface ae R0-R5, G0-G5, B0-B5 plus vert, horz, and clock. 3.3V or 5V. These are both great lcd screens because they come with NO backlight. And like you I agree that the 8 bulb setup make these babies great for displaying just about all types of moving pictures or even as a touch screen. Life span on the bulbs is at 20,000hrs normally. But the main cost is in the lcd and it matching display HW & not in the lcd backlights... oops also the invertors do cost a bit too.
My questions are as follows. 1st what volyage does this complete setup run on? 12VDC? My next question is the interface is it analog vga or digital or is it a composite input. Digital being DVI NOT the old digital vga that had 9 pins on a DB9M. Please advise as the answers are. Also how does the 262K colors compare to a normal 16million display.
Baggs
BTY the specs are in the datasheet that is linked to the ad. That is where I got the specs that I just posted. And they match my panels exactly except for the interface conector.
Baggs,
The screen can run directly from your car battery (12VDC) but the current setup right now is a laptop adapter that plugs into the standard 120VAC and out puts 12VDC 4.16A with a connector to the panel. I used this baby in my office as a digital picture frame for a while, but after a while it got annoying. No one was impressed anymore :P
As you can see from the pictures, The input is Analog VGA (15 pin) and there is no composite input. The colors make no difference in video play back, I will upload a pic later on with the sun shining on the screen and a DVD playing... keep checking my website for the pics... 262K colors is sufficient in displaying full motion video, and the jpg's are beautiful. Anyways let me know if you have any more Q's, I am taking offers right now so email me if interested.
-K110
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02-07-2004, 07:00 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by robiewp
Calm. I didn't say anything about your price, did I? I was commenting on the claim that car computers being so popular would determine it's worth.
actually, now, this screen is an overkill for a car computer, however, just as rims on cars get bigger and nicer - i am sure someone will want to install one of these screens to blind the compition...
... check ebay now for the amount of ITX related items (or any carputer items for that matter) and 6 months down the road ...
I have 2.5% Limo Tint all the way around on my Jag, and when I hooked this screen up at night, the glow from the interior of the car was just amazing...
... Reminds me of those rice burners with neon sticks and led's all over their cars lol...
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02-07-2004, 07:07 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by JoyRidun
actually, now, this screen is an overkill for a car computer, however, just as rims on cars get bigger and nicer - i am sure someone will want to install one of these screens to blind the compition...
This raises a question worth asking- are the backlights piled, or does each backlight light a portion of the screen? if they're "stacked" then you could concievably dim the screen by only powering some of the ?cathodes?
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... check ebay now for the amount of ITX related items (or any carputer items for that matter) and 6 months down the road ...
I bet 90+% of ITX systems are used for non car computer purposes. ITPS, well, you'd be pretty clearly right about that.
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I have 2.5% Limo Tint all the way around on my Jag, and when I hooked this screen up at night, the glow from the interior of the car was just amazing...
Ooh jag... what type?
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02-08-2004, 03:20 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by robiewp
This raises a question worth asking- are the backlights piled, or does each backlight light a portion of the screen? if they're "stacked" then you could concievably dim the screen by only powering some of the ?cathodes? I bet 90+% of ITX systems are used for non car computer purposes. ITPS, well, you'd be pretty clearly right about that. Ooh jag... what type?
The backlighjts are evenly spaced out accross the screen, I wish you could see the pic. my room mate turned off his PC and the files are on his comp. sucks. but yeah there are a number of ways you can dim the backlights. 1.) the lcd controller has a contrast/brightness controll 2.) supply less voltage to the backlights 3.) use software based dimmers. this is a VERY good one i found, which worked EXCELLANT on this super bright screen. http://www.taylormacintosh.com/ go to programs and you will see eclipse. its free. Hey i wonder how long you can power your computer+LCD with the ITPS... i thought i seen one one ebay saying that 2-3 hrs depending how many devices ur using. i meen i just had a whack idea of makin a portable PC, something small enough to carry with you like a couple books.. i know that wouldnt make sence cuz u could buy a laptop, but it would be really cool busting out a computer smaller than a standard size dictionary and a 8.4" or so touch screen LCD, or better yet be creative and mount ur mini itx inside of a binder and run the LCD monitor cable to the binder and do ur homework or research in the library/ i could totaly see some non-computer science people walk past you stare at it without a damn clue how you get a signal from a binder LOL.. oh here is another idea, get a really thick binder ( like the 2-3 inch) or whatever and on the inside cover mount the LCD screen and perhaps in the same binder have ur computer there  bwahahaha imagine comin to ur computer class lecture and sitting next to some dude with a laptop and whippin out a plain binder with "CSE 12" writtin on it and opening it to find computer guts + LCD screen inside ahahahah that would be sooo cool man if i dont get an internship this summer i will totaly do that for the hell of it... anyways yeah ur right that itx's are mostly used for non carputers but that will change... hopefully... btw my jag is a 96 xj6 vanden plas (the one with the tables in the back seats )
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