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08-21-2007, 06:43 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Sagem sl96-4 0n peugeot 306 1.8 16v 1999
I am trying to find out how to communicate with this ecu. Pin 7 on the ecu should energise the management control relay, which it does not. I can energise this relay with use of jumper wire/switch, and the car will start and run. i have checked/verified most sensors, i.e. the crank sensor and they are functioning. so the ecu is working to a degree. I therefore need information on why pin 7 is not functioning. immobiliser? airbag? etc. There is an obd connector below the steering which i am being told is probably not compliant, is there a way of reading the fault codes on this model, any help would be appreciated.
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08-22-2007, 02:12 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Detroit, MI
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Does the OBD connector below the steering wheel look like a trapezoid (i.e. the J1962 connector) with two rows of 8 pins each?
I'm not sure what the European legal landscape is and when OBD was required, but a 1999 vehicle would have provided at least basic OBD information in the US market.
If you can tell which pins are "stuffed" in the under-steering-wheel connector, it may be possible to determine whether OBD is present (possibly on an ISO network?).
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08-23-2007, 06:21 PM
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Very grateful for your interest. It is a j1962. Cons. 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,11,12,13,15and16 are wired. I have tried using a Geniscan GS400 diagnostic tool whch uses a number of ISO protocols but will not communicate. I have contacted a couple of companies that supply OBD equipment and they seem to think that Peugeot were one of the last to fully comply,( year 2000 i believe was the legal requirement), seems i missed by one year, especially on my particular model, (1.8 gasoline). One company did say there was software that uses a serial interface that may work but wasn't very specific.
Last edited by elders : 08-23-2007 at 06:28 PM.
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08-23-2007, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Detroit, MI
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Pins 7 & 15 imply ISO, but if you haven't found it then those pins could just be coincidence.
The information you mention is already more than I know of.
Sorry I can't help.
Good luck.
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08-24-2007, 07:34 AM
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Thanks anyway
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01-07-2008, 07:10 AM
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Maybe a usefull link
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01-09-2008, 02:39 PM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: UK
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Quote: Originally Posted by Carlocutor 
I'm not sure what the European legal landscape is and when OBD was required, but a 1999 vehicle would have provided at least basic OBD information in the US market.
Unfortunately the EU only required petrol vehicles to be compliant from 2001 - I'm afraid that this one is not compliant, Peugeot left it right until the last minute....
Gareth
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02-11-2008, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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306 Sagem SL96
Hi every one,
I hope I can help with Sagem problems, but firstly I need to understand what is the problem with pin 7 on the ECU?
Accorfing to what I see on the diagram of this system, the wire is transmitting an earth signal by engine ECU to energize the injection relay, so a supply of 12 V is delivered to varios actuators like coil, injectors, fuel pump...
This 12 V must be delivered after switching ON. If there is an immobiliser problem, a 12 V supply will not be delivered to the mentioned actuators.
Can you tell me where do you connect your jumper wire, what are the points or pin numbers.
Last edited by amjadajamia : 02-12-2008 at 06:22 PM.
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