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Old 10-06-2006, 01:29 PM   #46
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If you have room i have an 06 Titan. I would love to test it.
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Old 10-06-2006, 03:31 PM   #47
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Sounds good, still waiting for you email as well..no worries, I imagine you are busy.

Okay, as to the power issue, one last question. Once you turn off the ignition, and shut down your computer - would the serial/USB scantool not loose power as well? Would this not then require you to disconnect once you started the computer up again? This is assuming that the OBDPro is not disconnected physically from the car or the PC.

Really don't worry to much about it, I will order one when I get your email and test if out

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As long as the OBDPro is powered up you will not loose connection through a reboot etc.

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Old 10-06-2006, 04:22 PM   #48
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Sounds good, still waiting for you email as well..no worries, I imagine you are busy.

Okay, as to the power issue, one last question. Once you turn off the ignition, and shut down your computer - would the serial/USB scantool not loose power as well? Would this not then require you to disconnect once you started the computer up again? This is assuming that the OBDPro is not disconnected physically from the car or the PC.

Really don't worry to much about it, I will order one when I get your email and test if out

No problem I don't mind the questions (I'll probably regret saying that). Actually there is always power to the DLC connector even when you turn the ignition off so if you leave the OBD connector plugged into your vehicles OBD port it will always be powered on even on ignition OFF. The OBDPro does consume a small amount of power but I leave mine plugged in in my vehicle and it has not drained my battery even after not having used the vehicle for 3 days. I have not measured the current draw but that's something I will do soon so people have an idea of how much power it consumes.

Now if you yank off the DLC connector while your OBD Program such as scanmaster etc is running your scanmaster program will probably give you an error saying unable to connect but that is to be expected since you powered off the interface. In this case you will not have to disconnect the OBDPro just restart the OBD software on your PC

Not sure if this helps?

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Old 10-06-2006, 04:52 PM   #49
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Just a quick update

first thanks to everyone who agreed to test the interface, I have had an overwhelming response and am struggling to keep up with my email. I will be going through all the responses within the next hour, so everyone should have heard from be by tonight.

At this point I would like to close down the beta signup. I would like to limit the list to about 10 folks so I can monitor the results carefully.
(But I will accomodate every one who has responded to this thread prior to this message)

There are a few folks who I have invoiced but have not responded, please check your Spam filters, maybe your ISP was too aggressive and canned my message. I will post a list of all the confirmed participants by tomorrow morning, that way if anyones not on there and should be can speak up. If anyone from the pending list cancels I will open the beta signup again.


Everythings on track for shipping by Monday, but I might have to stagger shipments over two days so looks like most of the participants should have the interface in their end by late next week. Overseas folks might have to wait a bit longer.

Lastly: I had one person mentione a broken link on the http://www.obdpros.con website. Thanks for the heads up; that is fixed. If anyone else notices anything wacky or messed up on the website please let me know also.

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Old 10-06-2006, 05:08 PM   #50
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Sounds perfect man, can't wait to test it out. I will test the current draw on a few cars as well. You should be able to estimate total time till battery drain. Obviously an excellent feature in this case would be a battery monitor that would shut down the OBDPro completly before you drained your car battery for people like myself who plan to make it a permanent installation.
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Old 10-06-2006, 05:09 PM   #51
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Old 10-06-2006, 05:39 PM   #52
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Sounds perfect man, can't wait to test it out. I will test the current draw on a few cars as well. You should be able to estimate total time till battery drain. Obviously an excellent feature in this case would be a battery monitor that would shut down the OBDPro completly before you drained your car battery for people like myself who plan to make it a permanent installation.

Good idea will look into this as an enhancement.
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:09 PM   #53
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Quote: Originally Posted by michbound View Post
Good idea will look into this as an enhancement.

It may be overkill though and will just add to your BOM cost.

The ELM327 only draws 9ma. Given that we're talking about a car battery that has (on the average) 600 amp hours of capacity, a 9ma draw will take MONTHS to drain it.

The keep-alive in the car stereo probably draws more - and the ECU, and the keep-alive in the clock...

ref: ELM327 quick sheet
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:41 PM   #54
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Quote: Originally Posted by midiwall View Post
It may be overkill though and will just add to your BOM cost.

The ELM327 only draws 9ma. Given that we're talking about a car battery that has (on the average) 600 amp hours of capacity, a 9ma draw will take MONTHS to drain it.

The keep-alive in the car stereo probably draws more - and the ECU, and the keep-alive in the clock...

ref: ELM327 quick sheet

600Ah??? Are you running on nuclear fuel?? Maybe you added a 0! BTW, a 60 AH car battery with ONLY an ELM connected will last (IN THEORY) 416 days... No one will care. If you are really concerned about current consumption, you can add AT commands to put the interface into sleep and to wake up, obviously programs must add this feature... or simply add the possibility to wire a "sense" cable that turns on the interface only when the pc is powered up/connected.... just my 2 cents!
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:46 PM   #55
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600Ah??? Are you running on nuclear fuel?? Maybe you added a 0!

whoops... yeah I did.
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:49 PM   #56
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Good point guys about the battery. Will still measure the current draw once installed just in case.

Quick question, does the usb interface require a usb 2.0 port, or will 1.1 suffice. I imagine 1.1 will be more then sufficient.
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:53 PM   #57
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Good point guys about the battery. Will still measure the current draw once installed just in case.

Quick question, does the usb interface require a usb 2.0 port, or will 1.1 suffice. I imagine 1.1 will be more then sufficient.

It's a 2.0 full speed chipset but backwards compatible with 1.1.
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Old 10-06-2006, 09:20 PM   #58
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It's a 2.0 full speed chipset but backwards compatible with 1.1.

Hey Michbound,

Can you give me a list of all the different reading that I can get with this tool ? Even though I'm in for the beta testing, I'm still I newbie at this.
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Old 10-07-2006, 09:03 AM   #59
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Hey Michbound,

Can you give me a list of all the different reading that I can get with this tool ? Even though I'm in for the beta testing, I'm still I newbie at this.

The params that you'll be able to read will vary from car to car. It's up to the implementer on the car side to determine what will be exposed. You can expect "common" things like water temp and RPM, probably things like fuel trims and air flow, and what everyone likes to hear about - the CEL (Check Engine Light) codes! And yes, you could expect to be able to reset (clear) a CEL as well.
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Hey Michbound,

Can you give me a list of all the different reading that I can get with this tool ? Even though I'm in for the beta testing, I'm still I newbie at this.

Check out http://obddiagnostics.com/obdinfo/pids1-2.html this shows you most of the commonly available info
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