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02-11-2007, 04:44 AM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2006
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newbie seeking help on integrating OBD-II with carputer
Ok, i'm new to the carputer scene but have plans on doing a full setup starting in the next few weeks when i have some time off work.
I've read the sticky thread here and now have a general idea about OBD-II and that it is a standard which allows data to be recorded/monitored/extracted from a vehicle. My question here is, what sort of options are there as far as interfacing this information to a Car PC?
I'm fairly computer literate and am through my first year of a Bachelor Of Information Technology. Are there devices/adapters out there made for the purpose which allow you to extract the information and present it on a VDU (aka monitor)? How customizable is it? How would you go about accessing such information if you were to incorporate it into a custom developed program? (I have some programming experience).
My Vehicle is a 1997 Holden VS Commodore (Australian Car) so i'm fairly sure it would have OBD-II after reading the sticky saying all vehicles after 1996. It definitely has fault diagnostics and i've already used some primitive methods to examine fault codes through that (which involved bridging a few pins with a paper clip and watching flashes on the instrument cluster).
Basically, i want to be able to extract data like speed, temperatures, rpms etc and display it on a monitor... Any help is much appreciated as i'm very new to this. Cheers, Bryce.
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02-11-2007, 06:09 AM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote: Originally Posted by Brycestro 
My Vehicle is a 1997 Holden VS Commodore (Australian Car) so i'm fairly sure it would have OBD-II after reading the sticky saying all vehicles after 1996. It definitely has fault diagnostics and i've already used some primitive methods to examine fault codes through that (which involved bridging a few pins with a paper clip and watching flashes on the instrument cluster).
Basically, i want to be able to extract data like speed, temperatures, rpms etc and display it on a monitor... Any help is much appreciated as i'm very new to this. Cheers, Bryce.
The 1996 timeline is for US based cars only, I think Australia did not mandate OBD II until almost 2003, so most likely your Holden is not OBD II but ALDL. I think someone here posted a link to an ALDL software that needs just a cable to run.
Check this thread
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...highlight=aldl
and this site
http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/aldl8192/8192hw.htm
Paul
www.obdpros.com
Last edited by michbound; 02-11-2007 at 06:16 AM.
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02-11-2007, 07:25 AM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Ok, looks like i've got a little reading to do. I've had a brief look at the second linke and found this line of text on it:
"Later Australian Commodore models (VR, VS, etc.) use a 16 pin OBD-II style connector, but the pinouts are unique to Australia. This connector is located under the steering wheel. "
I'm assuming this means that the VR and VS use OBD-II (and not just an OBD-II style connector with an older protocol - is that even possible?). I own a VS, so it's looking like I may have OBD-II.... Lets hope so, cheers and thanks for all the info, if i get stuck after some reading i'm sure to have more to say, Bryce
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02-11-2007, 08:11 AM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote: Originally Posted by Brycestro 
I'm assuming this means that the VR and VS use OBD-II (and not just an OBD-II style connector with an older protocol - is that even possible?). I own a VS, so it's looking like I may have OBD-II.... Lets hope so, cheers and thanks for all the info, if i get stuck after some reading i'm sure to have more to say, Bryce 
Nope, it means exactly what it says, it's an OBD II style connector but the protocol is not OBD II
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02-11-2007, 05:11 PM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote: Originally Posted by michbound 
Nope, it means exactly what it says, it's an OBD II style connector but the protocol is not OBD II
Ah damn. Oh well, looks like some more reading and research for me.
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02-14-2007, 05:40 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2007
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I have a newer car that is equipped with ODB-II. Is there any front-end software that can display some of the data?
I have been looking at the posts on this forum and all the software seems to be stand-alone. I would like to take one of the software front ends and have an additional screen that will display some data from the ODB-II interface.
Thanks.
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02-14-2007, 05:43 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bradisbest 
I have a newer car that is equipped with ODB-II. Is there any front-end software that can display some of the data?
I have been looking at the posts on this forum and all the software seems to be stand-alone. I would like to take one of the software front ends and have an additional screen that will display some data from the ODB-II interface.
Thanks.
Checkout centrafuse www.fluxmedia.net, that software has an OBD II plugin and it works great with the OBDPro interface www.obdpros.com
Paul
www.obdpros.com
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02-14-2007, 07:05 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Rosemount, MN
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StreetDeck as well.
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02-20-2007, 08:12 AM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Bendigo/Victoria/Australia
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OBD-II is in VX Commodores and up. Thats right VT's didn't have it. Your VS would have standard OBD-I. Similar plug but different codes.
Apparntly OBD-I is heaps easier to read codes off but i'm not sure because ive never done it.
Sorry to be the one to give you the bad news buddy, but their should still be a way to intergrate OBD-I into a PC
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02-20-2007, 08:18 AM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Bendigo/Victoria/Australia
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Ohh if you need anything else mate just give me a bell
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02-20-2007, 08:19 AM
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Mankato, MN
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Quote: Originally Posted by Brycestro 
Ok, i'm new to the carputer scene but have plans on doing a full setup starting in the next few weeks when i have some time off work.
I've read the sticky thread here and now have a general idea about OBD-II and that it is a standard which allows data to be recorded/monitored/extracted from a vehicle. My question here is, what sort of options are there as far as interfacing this information to a Car PC?
I'm fairly computer literate and am through my first year of a Bachelor Of Information Technology. Are there devices/adapters out there made for the purpose which allow you to extract the information and present it on a VDU (aka monitor)? How customizable is it? How would you go about accessing such information if you were to incorporate it into a custom developed program? (I have some programming experience).
My Vehicle is a 1997 Holden VS Commodore (Australian Car) so i'm fairly sure it would have OBD-II after reading the sticky saying all vehicles after 1996. It definitely has fault diagnostics and i've already used some primitive methods to examine fault codes through that (which involved bridging a few pins with a paper clip and watching flashes on the instrument cluster).
Basically, i want to be able to extract data like speed, temperatures, rpms etc and display it on a monitor... Any help is much appreciated as i'm very new to this. Cheers, Bryce.
I don't think it would be OBD-II, if you can jump pins to get flashes. Talk to the service guys at a holden dealer, and find out what interface it uses, and go from there.
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02-22-2007, 12:41 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Ok guys I will join this thread as I am not completely sure what all I need to be able to monitor my OBD-II.
is this the only type of setup available?
that seems like too many adapters/cables... isn't there an easier set up where maybe the scantool itself would have OBD-II cable attached on one side and serial/usb connector on the other, to eliminate all these different cables/connectors.
From my understanding, I need a scantool that connects between the OBD-II and my carputer right?
Last edited by simmo; 02-22-2007 at 12:43 PM.
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02-22-2007, 12:45 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote: Originally Posted by michbound 
well seems like that flux software isnt even released yet. Any idea how much it will cost when it gets released? and whats the expected release date?
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02-22-2007, 02:48 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 281
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Quote: Originally Posted by simmo 
Ok guys I will join this thread as I am not completely sure what all I need to be able to monitor my OBD-II.
is this the only type of setup available?
that seems like too many adapters/cables... isn't there an easier set up where maybe the scantool itself would have OBD-II cable attached on one side and serial/usb connector on the other, to eliminate all these different cables/connectors.
From my understanding, I need a scantool that connects between the OBD-II and my carputer right?
The interface ships with the cables so in effect the OBD II cable could be permanently attached to the interface and the same goes for the serial cable. Is that your question or did I misunderstand it.
Paul
www.obdpros.com
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02-22-2007, 02:49 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote: Originally Posted by simmo 
well seems like that flux software isnt even released yet. Any idea how much it will cost when it gets released? and whats the expected release date?
Not sure about the costs, but they have a beta version that you can download for free and use for quite a few months I think.
Paul
www.obdpros.com
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