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07-04-2004, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Alpharetta, GA
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Duramix is the Answer for Dash Fabrication!
Well I have been working on fixing my dash panel this weekend, and I have to say that Duramix is the answer for a plastic to plastic bond. It is basically a 2 part liquid plastic in a tube.
I bought the stuff from Levine auto. It is 27 a tube. They want like $60 for the gun to use it. Since I was not about to pay $60 for a tool I had limited use for I went to lowes to see what I could come up with. I bought the biggest cheap caulk gin they had for about 8 bucks. I then bought a piece of 1 inch dowel for like $4. Whoala, a duramix caulk gun for $12. You just cut the dowel into about 6 inch pieces and use then to push the material. You have to cut the corners off of the base of the duramix tube so that it will fit in the gun easier.
I would recommend buying one tube of Duramix 4040 and one of 4058 and at least 12 mixing tips for the 4040. Each time you want to apply the 4040 you will have to use a tip. I unfortunately bought 2 tubes of 4040 and no 4058. The 4058 is a skim coat that you will need to fill in holes with.
Since I don't have a DA sander and was using my dremel free hand, I am going to need a lot of 4058
4040 bonds VERY quickly.
I am going to include a picture of the duramix gun I made. I am not putting a picture of the dash piece in because it is far from done and I have painted it so that I can use it in the truck this week. I am working in Atlanta and my house is in Charlotte, where I do the work on the truck and stuff so it is only on the weekends. I just ordered a tube of 4058 and I plan on working on that next week.
Let me know if you have any questions.
John
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07-04-2004, 05:25 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 68
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I like that tool. It should also be noted that you need to pick different types of duramix for different types of plastics...
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07-31-2007, 01:48 PM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Colony, TX
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Does the 4058 require extra mixing tips? Also,
I've used the 4040 but never the 4058. I saw the glassman 5.1 videos and he is using 4058 for the lowspots instead of filler. He doesnt really say how hard it is to sand, i know he uses a DA, but i want to know how hard/easy it is to sand by hand?
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08-01-2007, 01:07 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: mississauga, On.
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its hard to sand, i used this stuff before, its like hard plastic, but its da bomb, i have the 30 second stuff to but rairly use it, i find that the "fusor" stuff works well too...
but my most favorate stuff in the world is the stuff i made my dash from...
DLn' 120 pics right now so i will take one in like 5-10 min...
made by pro form, "pf 702" "rigid plastic epoxy repair kit"
no shrinkage, can be baked and painted, no pinholes, excellent sandability and good for smc and frp
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Last edited by portabuddy; 08-01-2007 at 01:12 AM.
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08-01-2007, 02:35 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles Ca
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Quote: Originally Posted by portabuddy 
made by pro form, "pf 702" "rigid plastic epoxy repair kit"
where do you buy this stuff?
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08-01-2007, 02:48 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: mississauga, On.
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i bought it from a auto body suply store, it realy is verry good, it sands so easy, its like working with foam. i love it, i hate sanding and this stuff is easy as hell to work with and sand to how you want it...
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08-01-2007, 03:03 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Los Angeles Ca
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how hard is it when cured?
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08-01-2007, 03:08 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: mississauga, On.
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ROCK HARD, if its thin it snaps, like les then 1/16"... but if thick like 1/8" then its bullet proof... it take 15 min to het totaly hard and 24houres to fully cure to maximum hardness...
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08-04-2007, 12:10 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Colony, TX
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Quote: Originally Posted by MegaloRESE15" 
Does the 4058 require extra mixing tips? Also,
I've used the 4040 but never the 4058. I saw the glassman 5.1 videos and he is using 4058 for the lowspots instead of filler. He doesnt really say how hard it is to sand, i know he uses a DA, but i want to know how hard/easy it is to sand by hand?
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08-04-2007, 01:37 AM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: mississauga, On.
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you need a new tip every time you use it, and if you stop in the midle of the job half the tube will set, It does a exelent job mixing but you need new ones everytime you use the epoxy...
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08-04-2007, 10:20 AM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Colony, TX
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cool so its just like how you use 4040
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08-04-2007, 04:35 PM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Georgia
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my only problem with duramix is its 40 dollars a tube.
Most of the time I can just use a 3 dollar tube of plastic epoxy for my needs.
And some Hilti guns (got them from my work) make perfect duarmix guns withou any modifications.
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08-04-2007, 06:40 PM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Colony, TX
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$26 a tube son!
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01-04-2008, 09:53 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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I can get the stuff at $15 a tube so its not so bad for me
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01-14-2008, 11:22 PM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: HAGERSTOWN,MD
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Quote: Originally Posted by SilverFocusZX3 
I can get the stuff at $15 a tube so its not so bad for me 
used both 40/40 and 40/58. But I rarely use the 40/40. I just stick with the 40/58. it much better to sand and fills holes well, great stuff. where do you get it for 15$ a tube? Lowest I bought it for was $26
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