Solvent adhesives... why don't more people use them? - Page 4

coachreed · 03-17-2005, 10:56 PM

well, if your talking about making a pod that sits or mounts on top of your dash, not really moulded into your dash, fiberglass is probably the way to go... you won't have to worry about cracking unless your trying to make it one piece with your dash. Also, it would be a great deal of work to make a large panel from nothing with ABS.

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Pestilence · 03-17-2005, 11:59 PM

Here's a related post on my progress with Oatey's ABS Cement on my F-150 dash bezel. So far it's working VERY well.

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...829#post410829

JaxPt · 03-18-2005, 12:29 AM

Ahhh yeh Liquid Plastic, I've seen the stuf around for awhile, Tim Baille an IASCA world champion could be the spokesperson for it. His shop molds most dash accessories almost exclusivly with it. So much that recently they started to sell thier own brand.
http://hzemall.com/online_store/onlinestore.htm

He says the stuff is so much easier to work with tan bondo and doesnt crack like bondo would over time. heres some pics of the fabrication work they've done
http://hzemall.com/our_gallery/insta...sh/sunfire.htm
http://hzemall.com/our_gallery/insta...dash/mazda.htm
http://hzemall.com/our_gallery/insta...ers/accord.htm
http://hzemall.com/our_gallery/insta...console/vw.htm

Up until now I never knew what it was made of, i planned on using it to install my lcd.
Thanks for the info there coachreed

Squid · 03-18-2005, 02:52 AM

That Oatey stuff seems like its working out real well... that's cool for $6

I read in that other thread it took 6 hours for the chips to melt down? wow.. I would
never think that with all those other potent chemicals in there.. hmm... were your chips
too big maybe?

I have to say this is one of the most interesting threads on these forums in quite some time!

Pestilence · 03-18-2005, 03:07 AM

well they started melting right away, but i found it was much thicker after several hours (sealed). I also had problems with melted, but still firm, chips getting stuck in the spout at first too.

I bought my chips from a plastics supply place - they are sold as 'abs re-grind'. apparently they are scraps of abs that were trimmed off of manufactured parts, re-ground, and sold back to the supplier.

n8scstm · 03-18-2005, 11:10 AM

Mostly they are pieces left over from injection molding. Similar to the pieces that hold all the parts of a model car together before you snap them off. They regrind these and use them again for injection molding. It melts them down and squirts them into the mold.

antimatter · 03-18-2005, 01:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Squid

That Oatey stuff seems like its working out real well... that's cool for $6

I read in that other thread it took 6 hours for the chips to melt down? wow.. I would
never think that with all those other potent chemicals in there.. hmm... were your chips
too big maybe?

I have to say this is one of the most interesting threads on these forums in quite some time!

Yea... that stuff might be the way to go.

This thread is one of the most interesting threads in a long time. I theory it totally makes cents. You have redeemed yourself coach

msb5150 · 03-18-2005, 01:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by JaxPt

Ahhh yeh Liquid Plastic, I've seen the stuf around for awhile, Tim Baille an IASCA world champion could be the spokesperson for it. His shop molds most dash accessories almost exclusivly with it. So much that recently they started to sell thier own brand.
http://hzemall.com/online_store/onlinestore.htm

He says the stuff is so much easier to work with tan bondo and doesnt crack like bondo would over time. heres some pics of the fabrication work they've done
http://hzemall.com/our_gallery/insta...sh/sunfire.htm
http://hzemall.com/our_gallery/insta...dash/mazda.htm
http://hzemall.com/our_gallery/insta...ers/accord.htm
http://hzemall.com/our_gallery/insta...console/vw.htm

Up until now I never knew what it was made of, i planned on using it to install my lcd.
Thanks for the info there coachreed

That's some interesting stuff, I like their applications, but a little pricey...And I can't trust a company that tries to sell a LED and resistor for $5...

antimatter · 03-18-2005, 03:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by msb5150

And I can't trust a company that tries to sell a LED and resistor for $5...

hahaha obviously you know nothing about LED's. It comes with a resistor and a gromit and it is 8000-11000 mcd

for that brightness it isn't a bad price

msb5150 · 03-18-2005, 06:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by antimatter

hahaha obviously you know nothing about LED's. It comes with a resistor and a gromit and it is 8000-11000 mcd

for that brightness it isn't a bad price

Hmmmm, a resitor and a gromet? WOW...
Wait...here we go: 11000mcd leds for all of $1.74, 24000mcd white led for $2.54...
Resistors from the same site are 5 for a quarter, and a gromet can be found anywhere (for less than the $4 (EDIT-$3) it would take to make the cost equivalent to that of the abs adhesives site)

coachreed · 03-18-2005, 06:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by antimatter

blah blah blah...You have redeemed yourself coach

Redeemed myself from what? Did I do something to make myself look stoopid or not interesting? Geesh!

As for LED prices... I see a lot of LED's that are really pricey... but what do I know?

Coach

antimatter · 03-18-2005, 08:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by msb5150

Hmmmm, a resitor and a gromet? WOW...
Wait...here we go: 11000mcd leds for all of $1.74, 24000mcd white led for $2.54...
Resistors from the same site are 5 for a quarter, and a gromet can be found anywhere (for less than the $4 (EDIT-$3) it would take to make the cost equivalent to that of the abs adhesives site)

*puts foot in mouth*

Hey thats a good site. I havent found them that cheap. Good find

antimatter · 03-18-2005, 08:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by coachreed

Redeemed myself from what? Did I do something to make myself look stoopid or not interesting? Geesh!

As for LED prices... I see a lot of LED's that are really pricey... but what do I know?

Coach

hehe

redeemed yourself from that awefull habit of posting pictures in your signature

coachreed · 03-18-2005, 08:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by antimatter

hehe

redeemed yourself from that awefull habit of posting pictures in your signature

CRAP! I had totally forgotten about that ordeal... and now that you mentioned it, I realize I have done it a few times during the last few days! DOH! Sorry... I should be able to remember for at least a few months again... lmao!

Later!

antimatter · 03-19-2005, 02:15 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by coachreed

CRAP! I had totally forgotten about that ordeal... and now that you mentioned it, I realize I have done it a few times during the last few days! DOH! Sorry... I should be able to remember for at least a few months again... lmao!

Later!

lol

It's all good... I was just giving you hard time

I am really interested in this method of fabrication and would like to see any updated pictures as you continue to work on it.