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04-24-2007, 07:56 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: uk
Posts: 293
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This sounds intresting, I never seen this thread 
So I read over well scanned, is this ready ish yet? also are you selling hardware and the software?
sorry if you have said before there is alot of pages and its late here lol
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04-24-2007, 08:11 PM
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#302
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 399
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Quote: Originally Posted by greenman100  Unresolved Bugs
Fixed Bugs
Odd habit of connecting/disconnecting
Other Improvements
I have the timed turnoff working independently for each channel... in other words, you set each channel to turn off after x number of seconds.
If you have not paid for your relay and temp sensor, you need to.
Once everyone reports in with a day or two of experience, I will send out new firmware PICs. We will provide an envelope with postage. 
Iv been testing the board on and off for the better time since I got it and I haven't been able to find anything new wrong with it. Ill will be putting the software through its passes for the next few days as well as trying to interface with the DLL. I will post anything that I find.
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04-24-2007, 08:36 PM
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#303
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 399
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I was also wondering if I could get the source code for the software, if your worried about anything along the lines of software theft all I want is the program its self not the DLL. I would like to get started on the StreetDeck integration plus I can do a better job testing the software if I can see it from behind... if you know what I mean.
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04-24-2007, 11:20 PM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,197
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Quote: Originally Posted by madkad This sounds intresting, I never seen this thread
So I read over well scanned, is this ready ish yet? also are you selling hardware and the software?
sorry if you have said before there is alot of pages and its late here lol
Software is free, hardware prices are at www.fusioncontrolcentre.com/store.php
It's in beta now, will be for sale in under a month.
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04-24-2007, 11:30 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 399
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After StealthRT's post with close up pictures I noticed something out of place on my board, I had previously taken a very close look at all of the board because of an odd error where tuning on DO #7 meant that #8 turned off... well I found the error, it was a blatant oversight from the manufacture. I was dumb enough to not take a picture but in the posted picture circled is what was over soldered. What makes this the manufactures fault was the fact that it had been somewhat trimmed away but the bridge was still there. This did not help me while I was looking for the error because it looked like it was supposed to be there.
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04-24-2007, 11:45 PM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Posts: 8,862
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Quote: Originally Posted by P3D4T0R Iv been testing the board on and off for the better time since I got it and I haven't been able to find anything new wrong with it. Ill will be putting the software through its passes for the next few days as well as trying to interface with the DLL. I will post anything that I find.
Quote: Originally Posted by P3D4T0R I was also wondering if I could get the source code for the software, if your worried about anything along the lines of software theft all I want is the program its self not the DLL. I would like to get started on the StreetDeck integration plus I can do a better job testing the software if I can see it from behind... if you know what I mean.
Cool. The software is open source. I just didn't want to release it until it is somewhat finished so that we dont have multiple half-finished softwares floating around. I can send you the raw *.cs files for the dll interface if you want. It is actually really really easy the way we set it up. You send a byte array and you get a byte array all with 1 command through the dll. In .NET (which is managed) you will need to compile with /unsafe and wrap your classes in unsafe parameters. C# is not a happy camper when you play with manual stack allocations and pointers. Give me a few minutes/hours. 
Quote: Originally Posted by greenman100
Quote: Originally Posted by P3D4T0R After StealthRT's post with close up pictures I noticed something out of place on my board, I had previously taken a very close look at all of the board because of an odd error where tuning on DO #7 meant that #8 turned off... well I found the error, it was a blatant oversight from the manufacture. I was dumb enough to not take a picture but in the posted picture circled is what was over soldered. What makes this the manufactures fault was the fact that it had been somewhat trimmed away but the bridge was still there. This did not help me while I was looking for the error because it looked like it was supposed to be there.
Do you mind if we use that picture to yell at the manufacturer with? Is it something you are capable of fixing? I would assume so because you were able to find the flaw in the trace.
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04-24-2007, 11:50 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 399
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Quote: Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster Do you mind if we use that picture to yell at the manufacturer with? Is it something you are capable of fixing? I would assume so because you were able to find the flaw in the trace.
Its not my picture, its StealthRT's, I didn't have my camera so I used his and just edited the circle onto it so you'd really have to ask him but I would say yes. I have already fixed it (how else would I know if it worked or not :P). I had a feeling you two were scratching your heads trying to figure out what went wrong so I figured Id post the info as soon as I tried it out.
Edit: Yes, PM me or email me the source if you want too, I feel you about the finishing thing, I wish I could have cleaned up some of my old code before I showed it off... oh well, its up to you.
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04-24-2007, 11:54 PM
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#308
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Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 49
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Sure go for it 2k1Toaster.
BTW, send me the source and blah blah since it seems the program has changed some since the last time (3 weeks) u sent me the latest one.
David
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04-24-2007, 11:58 PM
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#309
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Newbie
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 49
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and yeah, just in case its needed.. heres the super-sized pic:
David
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04-25-2007, 12:30 AM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Posts: 8,862
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Quote: Originally Posted by StealthRT Sure go for it 2k1Toaster.
BTW, send me the source and blah blah since it seems the program has changed some since the last time (3 weeks) u sent me the latest one.
David
Quote: Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster No, you didn't miss anything.
I just havent gotten around to posting it. I will put it on the website in the next few minutes and post a link.
Please keep in mind that this software is still beta. Pretty much 2 day old beta, before it was alpha. Being such, there are things that still need tweaking, and things that don't work, but show up as options.
Things that work and dont work, or are not implemented as of now:
Everything for the digital outs except being able to tie them together. This will come later. Basically you can control all the outputs to be either of or on at your beckon call and also make animations for them as of now. What does not work, or even begin to exist is for example pushing output 1 which is tied to output 2 so with 1 press, they both go on. and 1 press they both go off. This might be useful in led animations where you want it timed perfectly and easily.
Right now the analogue ins will show and display all their values correctly. The graphs are still a work in progress. Some work, some dont.
Also the temperature sensor is set to the MCP9700 right now so if you have the MCP9701, you will have to wait another day or so to get proper readings because that is not coded. It will display the temperature, but will be off by some factor.
Also the biggun. The API sending is not done. I've been having trouble figuring out how to send keystrokes to an application through windows api... Basically it is a horror. And I do not have, and cannot find Spy++. THe other I have tried crash and burn, or display nothing. So it is a slow process trying to figure it out.
Also the OSK right now has a button for -/: and soon it will be -/+ because the colon is a string parser right now, so the use of "::" will reak havoc, so that option will go away. So for now, stay away from double colons.
Also, the skin file cannot yet change the location of buttons. But it will very very soon. So within the next day or so as well.
Alright, and some things to mention, the speed at which the outputs update and the analogues update are user settable in the FusionForm.skin file. Look in the >>MAIN section and it will be quite obvious. If you have questions about what those things in the skin do, go ahead and ask, and I will try to respond fast.
Also please be advised that after you change a setting in the config page, you must click save for the settings to take effect.
So this should be enough to wet your pallettes, and to figure out the basics of the program. So start making some skins, and showing off to your friends! You now hold the power of a thousand suns! (Well beta-suns)
Fusion Control Centre Beta Version 0.2
http://www.fusioncontrolcentre.com/S...L_Beta_0.2.zip
Quote: Originally Posted by P3D4T0R How about the driver?
Quote: Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster
Quote: Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster Ok, new update to the program: http://www.fusioncontrolcentre.com/S...2024-04-07.zip
Just replace the current *.exe with this one.
Changes for 24-04-07:
* Graphs now work again
* Took off protection timer for analogue timers. Now you can update at a theoretical 1mS interval. This is getting us around 17 kilobytes a second in data transfer. Which is more than enough resolution.
* Added some program protection.
More updates will come soon.
Those links are for the driver, main program with all the images and everything, and then the last exe is just to replace the current one in the first zipped file because it has some updates. It is a direct replacement.
I have another exe I am testing now that WILL NOT BE compatable with the userconfig.atom file, so with the newest exe hopefully coming in a day or two, you will either need to manually edit the userconfig.atom file to the correct string defaults, or delete those files, and redo the config. Just a heads up.
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04-25-2007, 12:48 AM
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#312
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,197
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Any other hardware bug reports? How are the sensors/relay working?
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04-25-2007, 04:40 AM
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#313
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: MA, USA
Posts: 399
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Well... I figured tonight since I wasn't tired I would work some more on this and while I was planning on how to mount it into my car I accidentally crossed to power wires and fried the voltage regulator. I was able to replace it with an equal alternative (non surface mounted) but I fear I may have fried the PIC because it is recognized by the computer but windows device manager says that the device has failed to start... I may be out of the beta testing before I could even really get a good test done on the software...
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04-25-2007, 04:49 AM
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#314
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Posts: 8,862
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Quote: Originally Posted by P3D4T0R Well... I figured tonight since I wasn't tired I would work some more on this and while I was planning on how to mount it into my car I accidentally crossed to power wires and fried the voltage regulator. I was able to replace it with an equal alternative (non surface mounted) but I fear I may have fried the PIC because it is recognized by the computer but windows device manager says that the device has failed to start... I may be out of the beta testing before I could even really get a good test done on the software...
Holy crap! 
Well we have version 2 of the firmware being shipped to you guys really soon. So you get a new PIC with that. You are supposed to return the old one, but we'll figure something out.
Now by crossing power wires, do you mean you hooked up the + to the - and visa versa, or did you just short some pins somewhere? We might be able to implement some protection...
Just to give some other stories too:
Both Tim and I have accidentally shorted the +12v to ground, and when I did it, my heart skipped a beat and the PIC shut off. Unplug/Replug and worked like a charm. I have accidentally shorted the +5v to ground, and same sort of thing. Then my board also fell off the table, did a George of the Jungle swing into the open +12v line from the hacked ATX PSU I am using. Nice spark and a black spot on the bottom of the board. Wiped it off, and it was all fine again afterwards.
So basically Tim and I have put these boards through hell, and they seem to work ok. Sorry for your bad luck...
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04-25-2007, 04:51 AM
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cheap custom title
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ghent - Belgium
Posts: 1,859
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Haven't been following lately but it seems this is a great product! Nice work!
Joachim
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