*NEW* USB Input/Output Board -- Fusion Brain

[turbocad6]

well there are suspension height sensors used by the factory for stuff similar to this, I know that in some of the upscale kits I was talking about, they include 4 universal height sensors too, but a factory designed one will be more durable & dependable long term, you could probably even source these used from a wreck even. some of them look like mini shock absorbers(fords) but most are a small box with an arm sticking out that is attached to the frame of the car, & then theres a linkage that would connect this arm to the lower control arm or suspension point... in the end it winds up just being a variable resistance depending on the height.

so lets say you get a value of x at full slammed, & a value of z at full hieght, then you'd get a value of y at ride hieght... you would be able to program the skin to bring all sensors to y with a button press, of course there will need to be some logic involved, like if the value or sensor 1 is higher than y then that port would have to vent, but if the value of sensor 1 is lower than y then it wil need to open the port to add air for that corner..., the actual logic behind this would be something for the badger to chime in on, but I'm sure if you got to that point then it could be sorted.

[2k1Toaster]

Quote: Originally Posted by mezz64

My old computer at work + all those freaking high-res photos = an unbearably slow computer

Quote: Originally Posted by Siezmik

This is like circuit porn! Great stuff, keep it up.

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

hey man, those pictures are murder, my browser times out before all are loaded, & that's on a dsl connection they do lok good though

tn6478, to do what your talking about, I'm asuming you want to use the pc instead of like one of those expensive controllers like the dakota digitals or air ride tech's setup.

this can be done like greenman said with relays, but you'll want to be able to have some sort of reference as to where the car is at any given time. for that you wil need a way to monitor the suspension, there are 2 ways of doing that, either monitoring air preassure for each port(easy) or actually monitoring vehicle height ( a bit more complicated, but better) this should be pretty easy to do really, but since you asked about "memory" you should realize that the fusion brain doesn't do anything without the pc up & communicating with it, so the suspension control will be dependant on the pc for the functionality your looking for.

you can still have the normal basic functions of the system though even when the pc is not up, it'll just be manual at that point, like any other "simple" air ride setup.

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

well there are suspension height sensors used by the factory for stuff similar to this, I know that in some of the upscale kits I was talking about, they include 4 universal height sensors too, but a factory designed one will be more durable & dependable long term, you could probably even source these used from a wreck even. some of them look like mini shock absorbers(fords) but most are a small box with an arm sticking out that is attached to the frame of the car, & then theres a linkage that would connect this arm to the lower control arm or suspension point... in the end it winds up just being a variable resistance depending on the height.

so lets say you get a value of x at full slammed, & a value of z at full hieght, then you'd get a value of y at ride hieght... you would be able to program the skin to bring all sensors to y with a button press, of course there will need to be some logic involved, like if the value or sensor 1 is higher than y then that port would have to vent, but if the value of sensor 1 is lower than y then it wil need to open the port to add air for that corner..., the actual logic behind this would be something for the badger to chime in on, but I'm sure if you got to that point then it could be sorted.

We can do this. The IR distance sensor is a precise directional distance sensor. Mount them to the bottom of your car, and it will tell you how high it is from theground to your sensor.

And turbo has got the logic pretty much right. The software can do this presently. I myself have forgotten the exact way, but I wrote it down.

[Arrow]

Quote:

50A Current Sensor Of Doom and Destruction

LOL!

[Volsfan]

All of that technology, all those circuit boards, all of your "smarts" and I see a 1920's rotary phone in the back ground of one of the pics....

ugggg, what's up with that?

Other than that, I can't wait for the boards. Just keep the phone.


Like I would want to start dialing an 1- 888 all over again when I make a mistake with the last digit.

[Ryann]

tn6478

this is my current aim aswell to control my airride.. i asked the guys here and they are trying to get the daktoa digital air pressure senders to work along side the fusion, one this becomes available, our goal becomes alot easier.

I personally wont be going along the line of thr IR sensor because it is a very harsh environment under a car, and with the airride it actually slams on the ground..so hopefully ill be passing air pressures back to the fusion and from my buttons.

IF x==0psi
then POWER x untill it reachs 50psi.

each button could use different logic to get to the heights you are looking for.

Hope that helps a lil.

[tn6478]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ryann

tn6478

this is my current aim aswell to control my airride.. i asked the guys here and they are trying to get the daktoa digital air pressure senders to work along side the fusion, one this becomes available, our goal becomes alot easier.

I personally wont be going along the line of thr IR sensor because it is a very harsh environment under a car, and with the airride it actually slams on the ground..so hopefully ill be passing air pressures back to the fusion and from my buttons.

IF x==0psi
then POWER x untill it reachs 50psi.

each button could use different logic to get to the heights you are looking for.

Hope that helps a lil.

when you get the air ride control Can't you just tap into the module that it comes with and program it to the switch. Wouldn't that be easier

[Ryann]

^ im not following, my aim is to have no switchbox at all, just to run my valves from the touchscreen. only

[turbocad6]

yeah, you don't need any control modules or switches, you can do the whole thing through the touchscreen, but you should at least have a set of hidden switches for just in case you need to raise or lower in an emergency & the pc isn't available for some reason.

Quote: Originally Posted by 2k1toaster

The software can do this presently. I myself have forgotten the exact way, but I wrote it down.

using the ir distance sensors may not be a bad idea really, but I would project from a mounting point on the frame of the car & measure to a suspension component like the lower contol arm, this might require a small pad to be attached to the suspension component to have a flat surface to project off of throught the arc of travel, how pinpointy is that sensor? isn't it affected by the surface it's sensing?

[2k1Toaster]

Quote: Originally Posted by Volsfan

All of that technology, all those circuit boards, all of your "smarts" and I see a 1920's rotary phone in the back ground of one of the pics....

ugggg, what's up with that?

Other than that, I can't wait for the boards. Just keep the phone.


Like I would want to start dialing an 1- 888 all over again when I make a mistake with the last digit.

Rotary phone is where it is at! They make quick work off all those automatic customer service machines. Once you dial, just spin the wheel so it does it clicks, and immediately you get a real person.

I use it almost as often as I do my other phone which is one of those vtech cordless phones with the usb programmable colour lcd screen, and it can store, photos, mp3's, everything. New to old.

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

yeah, you don't need any control modules or switches, you can do the whole thing through the touchscreen, but you should at least have a set of hidden switches for just in case you need to raise or lower in an emergency & the pc isn't available for some reason.






using the ir distance sensors may not be a bad idea really, but I would project from a mounting point on the frame of the car & measure to a suspension component like the lower contol arm, this might require a small pad to be attached to the suspension component to have a flat surface to project off of throught the arc of travel, how pinpointy is that sensor? isn't it affected by the surface it's sensing?

You would need to ask Tim. I havent played with one yet. But they are precise, and extremely directional from what he has told me.

I dont know how precise you need, or how low you go, but the ultrasonic is +/- 0.5" but it does have a minimum range restriction.

[Ryann]

i wil have some sort of button to fire off all the valves to get lift initially, but having a switchbox as such over here in australia. gets you in alot of strife with the police. so ill convinve them it doesnt go to the ground. bcos ill have presets on the screen

[BiGGy]

Holy shiz those pics are way to big, internet freeze! ctrl+W in ms paint ftw.

Quote: Originally Posted by greenman100

http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,,761...5228%2C00.html

That's all you need, they're under a dollar. Connect two of our relays in place of the pushbuttons in the circuit.

Link doesn't work, explain it?

[Nerd2]

Link works for me

[greenman100]

Quote: Originally Posted by BiGGy

Holy shiz those pics are way to big, internet freeze! ctrl+W in ms paint ftw.



Link doesn't work, explain it?

google for digital pot

[Nerd2]

Quote: Originally Posted by greenman100

google for digital pot

Hits harder and faster than analogue pot

[greenman100]

The final Firmware also has some updates:

-Adds support for timers. Can set each output to turn off 0 seconds to 10 days after USB communication is interrupted.
-More optimized coding