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08-01-2007, 02:28 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: S Ohio
Vehicle: 2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe
Posts: 330
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Dual hard drives
I have a working car computer, its been running very well for just over 2 years. Currently I have a 320 GB hard drive in the system, and its full! I am wondering how dumb it would be to add a second hard drive into the system.
My options:
1) keep the 320 and add a 500 GB as well
2) Replace the 320 with dual 500 gb
3) Replace the 320 with a single 500 GB drive
4) be smart and leave everything as is
My thoughts are, dual drives create many more possibilities for errors in an already unstable environment.
I don't want to go with just a larger drive because, i have much more data than would fit on a single 500 GB drive
High data density drives are more likely to fail.
high density drives create more heat
Single platter drives are the most reliable and coolest
a single 750 or 1TB drive is too expensive / hot and can have up to 4 platter internally
Has anyone done anything like this? are there things that I haven't considered? Advice?
I guess 53,000 songs, 1500 tv shows and 250 movies is overkill?
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08-01-2007, 03:34 PM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Grand Prairie, TX
Vehicle: 2005 Mazda 3
Posts: 69
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I'm using 2 hard drives in my carputer. Although I haven't actually run it in the car (damn m2-atx was DOA), I don't see why a 2nd hard drive should create any further problems. Especially if it's purely for storage.
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TWM | Cosworth | HKS | AutoExe | Rev | Kumho | Tein | AWR | EBC
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Dell Optiplex GX270
P4 2.6GHz
120GB 2.5" HDD
512MB RAM
DS-ATX
BU-353 GPS
XM Direct Universal Tuner
7" Xenarc 700TSV
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08-01-2007, 05:01 PM
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Neither darque nor pervert
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: In The Sticks near The 'Ham
Vehicle: 2003 Toyota Tacoma X-Cab
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The major issue with multiple hard drives would be power consumption.
If power consumption could possibly be an issue, then go with a single physical drive.
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08-01-2007, 07:11 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: S Ohio
Vehicle: 2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe
Posts: 330
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Does the power consumption on these large capacity drives differ much from the power calculators available on this site? I mean if you hold a 500 gb in one hand and a 120 gb in the other there is a VERY signifcant weight difference, the heavier platters have to use more energy? Does anyone have any figures?
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08-01-2007, 07:17 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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08-01-2007, 07:28 PM
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Westminster, MD
Vehicle: '95 Eclipse GSX
Posts: 52
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Personally, I would clean out some of the TV shows and movies, not like you can really watch them while driving
As far as the drives we us the laptop drives which use less power and produce less heat, though one on USB as a removable and be done with it. when that one fills up, upgrade to a larger one.... USB disks are growing fast in size, I just saw a 20G usb disk!!! maybe wait till they hit the half TB and use one of them
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08-02-2007, 02:16 AM
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Jan 2007
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I'd go external. How do you even transfer your stuff from you desktop to your car? I guess you could do it through a network, but that seems like it would be annoying and take forever.
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08-02-2007, 05:17 AM
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Neither darque nor pervert
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote: Originally Posted by Moneyfink 
Does the power consumption on these large capacity drives differ much from the power calculators available on this site? I mean if you hold a 500 gb in one hand and a 120 gb in the other there is a VERY signifcant weight difference, the heavier platters have to use more energy? Does anyone have any figures?
Typically hard drives all draw roughly the same amount of power. The major factor in power draw is spindle speed.
Considering most desktop HDDs are 7200rpm anymore... A 500GB drive would draw about the same amount of power as an 80GB drive.
However, two drives would draw twice as much power. If you're close to the edge of your power consumption limit, then go with the single, larger drive, plain and simple.
Quote: Originally Posted by elimenohpee 
I'd go external. How do you even transfer your stuff from you desktop to your car? I guess you could do it through a network, but that seems like it would be annoying and take forever.
Wifi, baby.
If transferring across a network is slow for you, then there's something wrong. Granted, moving a 2GB movie file is gonna take a while, but there's nothing you can do about that.
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08-03-2007, 10:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 391
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Yeah the major difference between different hard drive sizes of the same form factor is data density (and number of platters). But all in all they take the same amount of power. A physically smaller hard drive (2.5" vs. 3.5") requires less power to spin the platters.
Darque: Do you use network attached storage for wifi? I never considered that. Wires wires everywhere.
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08-05-2007, 05:14 PM
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: B.More, MD
Vehicle: 2001 Infiniti I 30
Posts: 135
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moneyfink,
I personally recommend option 1. lol I just got a hold of mo-co-so 's casing, quite similar to vroom 2. Just like the vroom, only support 2.5". Bro, I would too if I could use 3.5" HDD. men, my music video collection is 1/2 TB. lol and im stuck with only 120gb in the car. So, im saying if you can accomodate per power consumption and space, do #1.
my $0.02  Good luck bro.
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08-05-2007, 06:37 PM
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Neither darque nor pervert
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote: Originally Posted by crooper 
Darque: Do you use network attached storage for wifi? I never considered that. Wires wires everywhere.
You're adding layers of complexity that don't need to be there, methinks.
I have my server in the house with a share for my music. I use WiFi in the truck to transfer music.
Nice & simple.
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08-05-2007, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: GA
Vehicle: 06 Nissan 350Z
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1) If you have plenty of power, go with 2 HDD.
2) If getting close to max power, go with 1 HDD.
3) Delete stuff. Out of 53,000 songs, 1500 tv shows and 250 movies, how many of them do you actually access? I am betting <10%.
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08-05-2007, 07:20 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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It's funny, when I got my desktop it came with a 200gb hdd. i thought I'd never fill it up. 2 years later I only have about 30 gbs left. I plan on putting movies which seem to take up the most space (almost 1 gb a flick) on dvds, 4-5 movies on 1 dvd will free up a little. You can also try and get the highest memory flash card an go with a flash drive for mp3s only. just a thought.
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