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Old 06-28-2009, 10:01 PM   #46
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can u also plug in a USB Flash and lsiten MP3s from it? thta thing freezes during boot up all the time
as to WiFi mobo, i think thats somewhat junk feature. Coming from wireless business i'd rather buy $70 200mW udb card with 5dBi antenna and that will catch free net in jsut about any residential neighborhood. (for complacent stock wififi card is 90mW)
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:05 PM   #47
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I've been chasing my tail for a couple of weeks with my system with USB problems. Finally determined that my Senao EUB862 high-powered wifi adapter was the culprit. It would work sometimes, then after a reboot wouldn't turn on properly or be recognized. If I had it plugged into a hub then it would affect all the other devices in the hub as well. Replaced it with a Linksys WUSB54G I had and all has worked well ever since.

So right now I have a Holux GPS and touchscreen into an unpowered hub, a serial-USB and the WUSB54G plugged into a powered hub (along with an extension cable for kb/mouse/etc. when I need it), and Bluetooth in another hub that is built into the case. All works well finally.

I'm not convinced that the Senao adapter has a problem. I'll do more testing on it when I get a chance. I'm just glad I have a stable configuration before I leave on a road trip soon.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:20 PM   #48
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Senao got goot produvt noways (at least im talking about EnGineus) if you have 200mW vesion then you need powered hub to get full power from device ;-)
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I have been fighting my ION board and USB issues. It would not boot at times or not even make it through POST. This is what I have determined...

My previous board (D201GLY) had only 4 USB ports so I had 2 powered hubs. The only USB thing I had plugged directly into the MB was my touchscreen. Everything else (DiNovo, Bluetooth, 2 USB to serial adapters, mouse, and thumb drives) was plugged into hubs. When I tried this setup with the new board it did not work at all. I now have 8 USB ports so I started eliminating the hubs and everything worked well but I needed a hub up front to use when I needed a thumb drive plugged in or tether my iphone for internet, so I added 1 powered hub up front and the PC would not boot with any type of input device plugged into the hub. It would not even POST. After weeks of trial and error I have everything plugged directly into MB except bluetooth and flash drives and the PC is reliable. I have never seen a PC not like input devices on a hub before. I tried 4 different hubs with the same results. I turned off legacy support in the BIOS and every other setting I could find but it did the same thing.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:30 PM   #50
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damn u make me scary, i wanted to try board but runing 5 Wires to front of my car is tooooooo much in terms of space and money

I tried latest top of the line industrial MB butit kept henging on startup w/ usb attached so shoping for alternative

my VIA EPIA M10000 works as charm but has only 1GHz single cire which is not too good for my needs

So i gess Zotac is off my shoping list for now ( Lets see what intel can promice
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The Senao has worked fine for me for several years. And still when it's recognized it works fine. I tried it both in a powered hub (several, actually) and connected directly. Did a clean install of WinXP also.

tempgp, right now I have 2 USB extensions run up into the dash into 2 hubs, one powered and one non-powered although I don't think that makes any difference in my situation. Once I found the problem device all was well. But it was a royal pain.
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ehh i know about that pain, thats why tring to shop around to avoid it =))
but it seanms everything exept VIA has problems w/ USB
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I have the D945GCLF2 at work right now. Soon to have the dual core ION. As for the other board though. Crappy USB! just trying to use a USB cdrom drive was a pain in the a$$!! you had to boot into bios. change boot order. remove drive. plug into other port. boot back up then maybe it would work! I mean seriaously crappy usb drivers\BIOS!

We shall see how the ION boards are when i get my hands on them
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I am getting Dual Core Atom from Zotac. Will post the review.
Currently having Startup issue with Intel D945GCLF and Creative X-Fi 5.1 USB Card.
I have to unplug the USB cable from card to get the POST screen. Hopefully Zotac MB will solve my issue.
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:03 AM   #55
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ok so intel is out too
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patiently awaiting the optimized POST time for this mobo.
If its not as good, i know a good alternative, just without the ion chip, which i can live without.
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so what boards u know that work well?
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The foxconn 45CSX or the ASROCK ION 330 or S300
I can't source the foxconn in north america, but i've found australian sites with reasonable shipping here. Foxconn has been my fav motherboard for carputer, i've used at least 3 of them in different cars, and they always have fast bootup (litterally zero POST with quickboot enabled), works fine in -30*C to +30*C even tho its consumer specs states > 0*C. Almost the exact same could be said about the asrock motherboard, except they seem to have higher quality (solid states caps) and better support, and that of course comes with a higher price tag. The ion 330 has the ion video and the s300 has the intel video.

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Produc...D=en-us0000425
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I always liked AsRock, but the link u showed is barebone system Do u know if they have motherboard sold separately?
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unfortunately there is none that i know of that's not barebone. Thats why i'm leaning towards the foxconn or zotac at the moment. The foxconn is roughly half the price, and the ion is overkill for carpc.
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