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03-03-2001, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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ground loop isolator help
BACKGROUND:Well i was going to make my own power supply, but i got lazy, and will probably hold off with that for a little. right now im using an inverter. it works just fine. but the noise is evil! Its not the inverter... its the ground... ive figured this out by touching the ground of the computer plug (with no inverter) to the ground of the car (while computer is off) and the noise goes straight through the sound card into my head unit!! ahh.. seems to be the alternator since the majority of the noise is matches my Tachometer, but i can hear just about everything go on and off in my car....
WELL HERE IS MY PROBLEM:
I bought a power noise filter (the Scorsche sold on this site). hooked the one end (input) to the + of my battery, and on the other side (output) there is the + and - that is hooked to my inverter (i still dont get how you can make a ground from just the + from the battery). Well, The inverter powers up just fine. The problem is when the computer goes on the inverter starts going through a loop of sending power to the computer, then cutting it with the "power low" alarm. The filter is rated at 10 amps... and the inverter can push out up to 1.75 amps...
any help?
thanks
Digital Chaos
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03-04-2001, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: New Richmond, WI
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If you got a Radio Shack near by get a audio system groud loop isolator Cat. No. 270-054
I use it and it killed the different humming sounds comming from my sound card.(oh it goes inline with your sound card's output.)
Hope that works for ya
Later
JrFaust
[This message has been edited by JrFaust (edited 03-05-2001).]
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03-04-2001, 05:11 PM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Virginia
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Yup, that worked for me too. Much easier than the other options.
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03-05-2001, 12:38 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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hmm, well before i had posted this i picked up another noise filter, but from radio shack.. it has a + and - input; + and - output. basically the same thing as the scorche.
Here is the comparison of the 2 being hooked up between the inverter and battery:
scorche: got rid of ground noise from the car, and ground noise from the inverter. But when i turned the computer on... the inverter would go into that damn loop.
Radio Shack: I could power everything up this time, but it did absolutely nothing.
My goal was to kill the sound before it hit the sound card. But now that i think of it, you guys are right. i'll be off to radioshack soon too pick up the isolator that goes into the audio lines.. hope it does the trick, thanks again... ill post my results soon.
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03-05-2001, 09:12 AM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Smyrna, Ga, USA
Posts: 778
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I had the same experiences with the radioshack 12v filter -it did nothing.
I bought the audio filter, and it works great.
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03-09-2001, 12:17 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 11
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well.... the filter worked 100% !!!!
thanks guys
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03-09-2001, 02:26 PM
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FLAC
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,017
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GLI ( Ground Loop Isolator) is the solution for everything!!. Forget the +12V filters... this baby took care of all the noise i had from alternator and inverter.
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03-09-2001, 02:40 PM
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Constant Bitrate
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Posts: 142
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yeah ground loop got rid of nearly all my noise but sub amp still humms.. piece of **** amp.. next amp i get will have low pass filter.. should sort it..
GLi's do rock yea, little ugly though =[
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03-09-2001, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: New Concord, OH, USA
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I still have some noise from the inverter (i think) but the last time I tried a GLI it got rid of the noise but it sounded like the music was being played in a big hall a long ways off. Any clue why it doesn't work for me???
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03-09-2001, 11:33 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: New Richmond, WI
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mp3wrangler, the GLI is a pair of coils I believe and if it's close to a power source you might be getting EMI signals.
Just a thought,
JrFaust
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03-11-2001, 02:38 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Ansley, NE, USA
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I tried a ground loop isolator for Radio Shack and it made more noise than it filtered. Any ideas why?
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