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Old 05-21-2006, 12:35 PM   #1
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LianTec ITX alternatives

I have been looking around at the various platforms to use as a CarPC, i.e. mATX, FlexATX, ITX, etc. I stumbled across the LianTec website which offers 3 different ITX soultions; AMD Geode NX, Intel Centrino, and Intel 915 Express. They all make use of "Liantec Tiny-Bus flexible expansibility supports modular addons". These addons are different depending on which board you choose
http://www.liantec.com/index.html
AMD:
supports AGP / PCI-based and VGA extended modules including DVI, SDTV, HDTV, LVDS, WLAN, mini-PCI, mini-AGP, PCMCIA, video capture, MPEG encoder, TV-tuner, multi-Ethernet, switch hub, and customized AGP / PCI-based modules for industrial embedded computing application.

Centrino:
supports AGP / DVO / PCI-based interface modules including DVI, SDTV, HDTV, WLAN, mini-PCI, mini-AGP, PCMCIA, video capture, MPEG encoder, TV-tuner, multi-Ethernet, switch hub, and customized function modules for industrial embedded computing application

915 Express:
supports modular PCI-Express / PCI / SDVO-based interface daughterboards including the PCI-Express Graphics, DVI, HDTV, 2nd CRT, WLAN, ExpressCard, mini-PCI, video capture, multi-Ethernet, and customized interface modules for embedded computing application.

There aren't any prices and I'm sure they are expensive, but they offer tons of features, esp the 915 Express built in WiFi, LVDS, Intel Azalia High Definition (HD) audio with Intel ICH6 and ACL880 Supports 7.1 channel, 5.1 channel and S/P DIF interface. Heck you don't to use the addons with that board. Only downside to the Intel 915 board doesn't offer mini-AGP and i haven't found any mini-PCIE video cards.

Mini AGP seems pretty cool as you can buy the ATi M10 chipset, Mobile 9600 for added graphics boost. http://www.globalamericaninc.com/new...ec2.php?id=176
Performance:
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDk0

The AMD board seems nice, but lacks built in LVDS support, Wifi, and uses an older Audio codec- ACL655 AC'97 3D audio codec Supports 5.1 channel and S/P DIF interface. Does anybody know if you can purchase the AMD Geode NX processors alone? You can buy a Biostar bundle for about $90 which includes an mATX mobo and Geode NX 1750 processor http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?Inv...g&cm_ite=total
You could keep the board and use it or probably get $20-30 for it on ebay if you need the smaller ITX foot print. The AMD processors might not be as quick as the Ms, but they do have low power consumption going for them. I know you can buy low volatage and even ultra low voltage Pentium Ms, but I bet they cost a pretty good bit. As always you need to weigh your choices, i.e. what are your demands and how much you can afford to spend, then go from there.

Intel Azalia Audio specs, makes me wish the AMD soultion used Nvidia chipsets.
32-bit, 192 kHz multi-channel
48 Mb/s per SDO, 24 Mb/s per SDI
Dynamic bandwidth assignment
General purpose DMA’s
Support for multiple streams (in & out)
Clock provided by the Intel® ICH
Unique Microsoft bus driver
Full device sensing / jack retasking
16-element array mic support

ALC655 info:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/p...odelid=2003051

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:34 AM   #2
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while not as small as the Mac mini or Aopen, it's still pretty small.

http://www.sfftech.com/index.php?/articles/show/843/3

Form Factor Shuttle "X" Chassis
Processor Intel® Yonah Dual Core 1.83G (667 MHz, 2MB L2 Cache)
Chipset North Bridge: Intel 945PM
South Bridge: Intel ICH7M-DH
Memory DDR2 Dual Channel SODIMM 256MB x 2
VGA ATI Mobile™ Radeon® X1400
MXM Interface
Audio Realtek ALC880
LAN Intel 82573L 1000 Base-T Gigibit
Optical Drive Slim slot DVD Multi Drive
Storage 250GB SATAII/300 Hard Disk
Internal Peripherals Integrated 4-in-1 card reader
802.11 a/b/g Wireless (Intel 3945, mini card interface)
Front Panel I/O 1 USB port
1 Power button with Away Mode
1 Power LED
1 HD / ODD LED
Rear Panel I/O 1 DVI VGA port
1 RJ45 Ethernet LAN port
4 USB 2.0 ports
1 IEEE 1394 port
1 S-Video out
1 Mic-in
1 Line-out
1 SPDIF out
1 SPDIF Coaxial Audio out
1 Connector with wireless LAN antenna
1 Regular power button
1 DC-in
Dimension 210(D) x 298.6(W) x 53.5(H)mm
OS Microsoft Windows Media Center Edition 2005
Software Adobe Acrobat Reader
Trend Micro PC-cillin2005
Cyberlink PowerDVD (MCE support)
Accessories System Manual
MCE User Manual
Quick Installation Guide
S-Video Cable
Wireless LAN Antenna
Material Plastic
Power Silent X 120W Power Adapter

MB740 AMD Geode NX Mini ITX Motherboard
http://www.microsupply.com/product_i...19881?ref=2003
seems pretty cool has built in mini-pci, mini AGP, and a std. PCI. You could upgrade to wireless, graphics, and sound all onboard. Has optical spdif as well

Boards based on the newer C7 VIA processor:
can't help you with video resolution, but look for a board with the newer C7 processor.
http://www.logicsupply.com/default.php/cPath/78_76

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