Mini-ITX boards - Page 2

_dopehead_ · 08-01-2006, 11:49 AM

how does the The i945GTt support Duo 2 ? i can't find any Duo 2's with other than LGA775 socket ? the i945GTt only uses 479 right ? Also FSB is 1066 mhz on Duo 2 and the i945 only runs 667, just a bit confused as to how this will work ?

RedGTiVR6 · 08-01-2006, 12:18 PM

apparently it doesn't...it's not listed as such on the web page. will make the change.

_dopehead_ · 08-01-2006, 03:49 PM

oh, good.....otherwise i would have felt screwed just buying the lv677dc board that doesn't support duo 2

oldmadog · 08-01-2006, 03:55 PM

this mobo seems interesting from
KONTRON the 986CD-M/mITL
Support Yonah and Merom CPU core
Front Side Bus 533/667 MHz
Intel® 945GM + Intel® ICH7R Chipset
Intel® GMA950 graphic controller on board
Flat Panel Display Support
Dual independent Display Support (incl. 2x LCD)
1x 16x PCI-Express /SDVO external graphic card socket
2GB DDR2 memory support
3x 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet
8x USB 2.0, 4x RS232C, 2x IEEE1394
1x ATA100 and 4x SATA150/300 IDE Controller
1x Compact Flash socket
1x mini PCI-Express socket for easy expansion of i.e. wireless LAN
On board RAID 0/1/5/10 support with SATA harddisk
7.1ch HDA / AC-97compliant audio output
Size: 170 x 170 mm (6.7" x 6.7")

RedGTiVR6 · 08-01-2006, 04:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by oldmadog

this mobo seems interesting from
KONTRON the 986CD-M/mITL
Support Yonah and Merom CPU core
Front Side Bus 533/667 MHz
Intel® 945GM + Intel® ICH7R Chipset
Intel® GMA950 graphic controller on board
Flat Panel Display Support
Dual independent Display Support (incl. 2x LCD)
1x 16x PCI-Express /SDVO external graphic card socket
2GB DDR2 memory support
3x 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet
8x USB 2.0, 4x RS232C, 2x IEEE1394
1x ATA100 and 4x SATA150/300 IDE Controller
1x Compact Flash socket
1x mini PCI-Express socket for easy expansion of i.e. wireless LAN
On board RAID 0/1/5/10 support with SATA harddisk
7.1ch HDA / AC-97compliant audio output
Size: 170 x 170 mm (6.7" x 6.7")

link?

I can't find it on their web page.

_dopehead_ · 08-01-2006, 06:26 PM

http://nordic.kontron.com/index.php?...productid=1336

_dopehead_ · 08-01-2006, 06:32 PM

actually as far as i can tell the Yonah and the Merom are pin compatible, so actually they should be supported by the commell lv677 also. I shall ask commell about this.

oldmadog · 08-01-2006, 06:44 PM

As far as I can tell more is involved in compatability between Yonah and Merom cpu's than just the pin count. There is also a bios change needed to support the different voltage. it must be a minor change since these updated bios's are available. I hope there arn't more subtle issues.
jim (oldmadog)

BDVirus · 08-02-2006, 12:33 AM

Merom and Yonah are pin compatable yes, but they are not neccisarily (im tired cant spell sry guys lol) mobo compatable. Similar to the Core duo and Core 2 duo's, yes its the same pin layout but if the bios dosnt SPECIFICALLY SAY it supports the proc then its a crap shoot. A bios flash might work, but might not. Intel has this problem of making cpus with the same pin layout, but arnt interchangeable nothing new shouldnt expect it to change either lol. AMD on the other hand just had a different socket for everything (when AM2 was initially released there were 4 different proc layouts being fabbed 939, 940, 754, AM2 which btw is 940 pins but its laid out differently from the socket 940 boards so AM2 wont fit in older socket 940 boards lol)

Basically if the box dosnt specifically SAY Core 2 Duo support, then they might be able to do a bios revision they might not. My suggestion is only buy the board if it says it supports it on the box, or on the manufacturers site compatability list (for your mobo of course).

RedGTiVR6 · 08-02-2006, 09:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by _dopehead_

http://nordic.kontron.com/index.php?...productid=1336

added!

oldmadog · 08-03-2006, 10:36 AM

I am not sure if the post by dopehead has been cleared up.
is there a question if the aopen i945GTt will take a cure 2 duo merom?
It should and the new bios required is available.
As to socket LGA775 that is the socket for core 2 duo conroe which obviously would not be supported by this mobo which is for socket 439 merom.
Both are core 2 duo. It is confusing and to be correct the intel official designation should be used (I guess).
The core 2 duo merom socket 438 is T7400.
The core 2 duo conroe socket LGA775 is E6xxx, where xxx is a sub grouping relating to speed.
The i945GTt should take the T7400 (merom). I wouldnt upgrade the word "should" to "can" untill one of you guys buys and runs the board. I wouldnt want to be to close the the "bleeding edge".
As for front side speed 1066 is a max and 667 is also listed. You could run at either but i think you also need the right northbridge. The i945GTt cant run at 1066 but could run at 667 with a 1066 cpu.
I hope i didnt confuse things more.
jim (oldmadog)

rando · 08-03-2006, 02:29 PM

AOpen's latest BIOS R1.04 includes support for Core2 on the i945gtt.

chanman · 08-07-2006, 01:04 PM

Jetway / Phylon / Versa / Vista J7F2WE[XXX][W]-[JJ]-[JJ]
~Processor: look at [XXX]
~FSB: 100/133 (? check for accuracy, some are only 100 but don't know which)
~Chipset: VIA CN700 north bridge, VIA VT8237R south bridge
~System Memory: 1 DDR2 400/533 DIMM (Max 1GB)
~Graphic Interface: integrated 128bit 2D/3D VIA S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro Processor
~Expansion Slots: 1x PCI, 2x AD Connector with Expansion Daughter-boards
~Storage Devices: 2x PATA (IDE) 100, 2x SATA 150 (RAID 0/1)
~Audio: AC97 Codec (6 channels)
~LAN: VIA VT6103 (10/100Mbps)
~Rear Panel Ports: 2x PS/2, 1x COM, 1x LPT, 1x VGA, 1x S-video, 1x RCA, 2x USB 2.0, 1x 1942a IEEE, 3x audio ports
~USB: 2x rear ports 2.0, 6x onboard 2.0 (max 8)

[XXX] - CPU core speed
------------------
1G0 is 1.0GHz C7 CPU [All]
1G2 is 1.2GHz C7 CPU [Jetway Only]
1G3 is 1.3GHz C7 CPU [Phylon Only]
1G5 is 1.5GHz C7 CPU [All]

[W] - CPU Wattage
------------------
Jetway: D is 25Watt, E is 12Watt
Pylon: C is 25Watt (? check for accuracy)
Versa: C is 12Watt (? check for accuracy)
Vista: C is 25Watt

[JJ]-[JJ] : only for Jetway models (eg. J7F2WE1G5D-OC-LF)

Boards manufactured by Jetway
* note * 25Watt CPUs shows up as C3 in BIOS unless BIOS was updated, does NOT affect performance

RedGTiVR6 · 08-07-2006, 02:43 PM

Added, along with a few others.

_dopehead_ · 08-09-2006, 12:33 PM

Just to add to the LV-677 i got this reply from commell when i asked about core 2 support :

Dear Sir ,

COMMELL LV-677 will support Merom , 667 FSB processor , But need update BIOS ,
Now , COMMELL engineer is working on this issue ,
When BIOS is available , I'll let you know .

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