The MP3car.com Store  

Welcome to the MP3Car.com forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. Registering will also remove advertisements. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Go Back   MP3Car.com > Mp3Car Technical > General MP3Car Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-28-2001, 08:04 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sonora, CA
Posts: 46
My Photos: (0)
Post question about relays and high gauge wires

Ok, I want to connect the autoff atx relay to an 8-gauge power wire. The problem is that the autoff atx relay accepts femal connectors to connect the wire to the terminal of the relay, but I can only find female connectors for low gauge wires (i.e. 14-16 gauge wire). Do they (manufacturers) make female connectors for high gauge wires? For all who are using a normal 30a relay or the autoff atx relay, how did you go about connecting large gauge wires to the terminals on the relay?
__________________
-=Heedunk=-
'99 Civic Si
Electron Blue
Heedunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 04-28-2001, 10:32 PM   #2
Maximum Bitrate
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Cincinnati, OH USA
Posts: 694
My Photos: (0)
Post

I know those are hard to find! You may be able to use these.
__________________
http://www.mp3car.com/usersites/Maveric/ M.A.V.I.C. System
Asus MB, PII 266, 192 MB Ram, 6.8" LCD, 6 Disk CD-ROM, 21 Gig HD, All-in-Wonder Video w/ TV Tuner, Irman, Windows ME, Winamp, Cobra III -- All in a custom acrylic case.

http://www.mp3car.com/usersites/listings/ MP3car Listings - Please add to it! :)
Maveric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2001, 12:06 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sonora, CA
Posts: 46
My Photos: (0)
Post

did you find those at your local radioshack or did you have to actually order them from the website?

thanks! for finding those for me. those are probably what i need. Are you using them? do they work well with lets say 8-gauge wire?
__________________
-=Heedunk=-
'99 Civic Si
Electron Blue
Heedunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2001, 07:38 PM   #4
Variable Bitrate
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NJ, USA
Posts: 242
My Photos: (0)
Post

I forget what those RS connectors are rated for but when I used them I thought the safest heavy guage I would go with them was 12.

I've never seen female crimp type connectors for 8 guage, and believe me, I've hunted for them! BUT, find a boat/marine parts store. They usually carry larger guage electrical parts since boats have motors, too. The only type of connector I found was the barrel-type butt splice connectors. BTW, unless you've got a crimper wrench for those large size wires, you may try using a vice. It's a ***** without that crimper, man.
__________________
P4 2.4GHz, Intel mobo w/onboard sound & video, 128MB memory, 100GB Seagate Momentus laptop drive, Xenarc 700TSV 7" touchscreen, IRman using Girder, 150W Opus dc/dc psu, Alpine CDA-9835 h/u, MBQuart speakers, Infinity 15" sub, MTX amps.
Tony S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2001, 11:31 PM   #5
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sonora, CA
Posts: 46
My Photos: (0)
Post

ugghhh, anyone have any other places I can get female disconnectors for 8-gauge power wire. I dont understand why relays have these type of connectors when most people use them for high current components that require large gauge wire!
__________________
-=Heedunk=-
'99 Civic Si
Electron Blue
Heedunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2001, 10:58 AM   #6
Retired Admin
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded)
Posts: 2,465
My Photos: (0)
Cool

Uh, you do realise that if they don't make 8 guage female connectors for your relay, the relay was not designed to handle the power that 8 guage wire can.
__________________
Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
"If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."
Aaron Cake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2001, 07:22 PM   #7
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sonora, CA
Posts: 46
My Photos: (0)
Post

i guess the relays arent meant for high gauge wire, but how did you guys setup your computers so it turns off and on with the car.
__________________
-=Heedunk=-
'99 Civic Si
Electron Blue
Heedunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2001, 02:45 PM   #8
Retired Admin
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded)
Posts: 2,465
My Photos: (0)
Cool

You don't need 8 guage wire. Just use a relay off of the accessory line. 12 or 14 guage should be more than sufficient for the 4 or so amps your computer draws.
__________________
Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
"If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."
Aaron Cake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2001, 06:22 PM   #9
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sonora, CA
Posts: 46
My Photos: (0)
Post

Aaron Cake: I dont want to use a relay off of the accessory wire since I will have a tv tuner, camera, and the lcd hooked up to the bosch type relay. The factory relay off of the accessory wire may not be able to handle all that power. The bosch relay has 3 leads. One of the lead is for a wire that connects to the battery. Another lead goes to the accessory so the relay knows when to turn on and off. I believe the wire for the accessory does not need to be a high gauge wire at all so a normal female connector for that should work.. The last lead goes to the inverter to turn on the computer. I believe that I should be using a high gauge wire like 8-gauge for this lead and for the battery lead. Right??? So I would need to get female connectors for these high gauge wires.
__________________
-=Heedunk=-
'99 Civic Si
Electron Blue
Heedunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2001, 09:41 AM   #10
Retired Admin
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded)
Posts: 2,465
My Photos: (0)
Cool

What I mean is to run a cable from the battery to supply power to the relay (fuse that wire close to the battery!!), then activate the relay off the accessory line.

You can use thin wire for the relay coil ("activate"), but you will need thicker wire for the battery/power wires. 8AWG is still extreme overkill. 12 14 guage should be more than sufficient.
__________________
Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
"If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."
Aaron Cake is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 05-06-2001, 03:46 PM   #11
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sonora, CA
Posts: 46
My Photos: (0)
Post

so you're saying that I can run a 12-14 gauge wire from the battery to the relay?
__________________
-=Heedunk=-
'99 Civic Si
Electron Blue
Heedunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2001, 09:00 PM   #12
Newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sonora, CA
Posts: 46
My Photos: (0)
Post

btw, im using a 300 watt inverter and this relay is going to be used for the inverter/computer, a tv tuner, and a small xCam2.
__________________
-=Heedunk=-
'99 Civic Si
Electron Blue
Heedunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2001, 11:13 AM   #13
Retired Admin
 
Aaron Cake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded)
Posts: 2,465
My Photos: (0)
Cool

Yes. You don't need monsterously thick wire.
__________________
Player: Pentium 166MMX, Amptron 598LMR MB w/onboard Sound, Video, LAN, 10.2 Gig Fujitsu Laptop HD, Arise 865 DC-DC Converter, Lexan Case, Custom Software w/Voice Interface, MS Access Based Playlists
Car: 1986 Mazda RX-7 Turbo (highly modded), 1978 RX-7 Beater (Dead, parting out), 2001 Honda Insight
"If one more body-kitted, cut-spring-lowered, farty-exhausted Civic revs on me at an intersection, I swear I'm going to get out of my car and cram their ridiculous double-decker aluminium wing firmly up their rump."
Aaron Cake is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:10 AM.


Sponsored Links
The MP3car.com Store

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright © 1999 - 2008 Mp3Car.com Inc.
Ad Management by RedTyger
Message Board Statistics