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01-16-2005, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Little Elm, Texas
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mike00
I did say there was a difference in the turning in my post something I am well aware of. You can however do that kind of sharp lean turning you do on a street bike on a dirt bike.
I have seen dirt bikes on road courses with riders who can drag knees....but they are on pavement and have street tires on those dirt bikes....there's a whole class dedicated to them.
Believe me, it's a different world...completely.
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However as far as the bike goes I guess I had a beginners bike in mind. I was looking at the Yamaha YZF600R which is 599cc compared to the 645cc of the suzuki
small as in <750cc
a v-twin produces power much differently from an inline 4. To compare a difference of 46cc is NOTHING. Compare power and torque numbers....
The YZF600 is a good bike, just check out how much it's going to cost you to replace that fairing when you go down the first time.
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01-16-2005, 04:56 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Southeast, PA
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Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
I have seen dirt bikes on road courses with riders who can drag knees....but they are on pavement and have street tires on those dirt bikes....there's a whole class dedicated to them.
Believe me, it's a different world...completely.
small as in <750cc
a v-twin produces power much differently from an inline 4. To compare a difference of 46cc is NOTHING. Compare power and torque numbers....
The YZF600 is a good bike, just check out how much it's going to cost you to replace that fairing when you go down the first time.
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Lol well I was thinking of going slightly used I guess it's just like I said I've seen the amount of money my step brother has had to put into a used bike in replacing parts that break down. Although his bike is a 94 or 93.
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01-16-2005, 05:11 PM
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#108
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: poconos
Posts: 8
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2003 ducati 748s
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01-16-2005, 05:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Little Elm, Texas
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mike00
Lol well I was thinking of going slightly used I guess it's just like I said I've seen the amount of money my step brother has had to put into a used bike in replacing parts that break down. Although his bike is a 94 or 93.
ouch - yeah - bikes typically don't last that long...lol
that's a 10 or 11 year old bike! even cars that old now a days take a lot of maintenance and repairs to keep them running.
I will never buy new, and I know my boyfriend won't buy new again either. The depreciation that a bike takes in it's first few years is amazing. You can find PLENTY of used bikes out there that are a year old that have been taken care of and barely ridden. We found my Duc this summer. It's a 2001 and it had less than 3000 miles on it. It was in MINT condition and I paid less than blue book for it since the lady didn't need the money, she just simply didn't ride it.....so I lucked out! Do a bit of searching, pick up a cycle trader at your local convience store and look through it, you will be amazed what you will find! good luck!
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01-16-2005, 05:31 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Little Elm, Texas
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Quote: Originally Posted by boosted4
2003 ducati 748s
sweet! so that makes....4 of us now?
lol
and welcome btw....being a n00b and all
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01-16-2005, 05:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Southeast, PA
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Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
ouch - yeah - bikes typically don't last that long...lol
that's a 10 or 11 year old bike! even cars that old now a days take a lot of maintenance and repairs to keep them running.
I will never buy new, and I know my boyfriend won't buy new again either. The depreciation that a bike takes in it's first few years is amazing. You can find PLENTY of used bikes out there that are a year old that have been taken care of and barely ridden. We found my Duc this summer. It's a 2001 and it had less than 3000 miles on it. It was in MINT condition and I paid less than blue book for it since the lady didn't need the money, she just simply didn't ride it.....so I lucked out! Do a bit of searching, pick up a cycle trader at your local convience store and look through it, you will be amazed what you will find! good luck!
I'm starting to lean toward this even if it puts off me getting a new car a few months. I've always wanted one but I'm still a bit scared of some idiot hitting me who wasn't even paying attention.
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01-17-2005, 06:47 AM
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Location: Little Elm, Texas
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you WILL have close calls....I have them nearly every day, but then again, I ride EVERY day, no matter what the weather...I use my bike to commute. It just makes more sense for someone in this town going to school and working to go that route.....a car pass costs around 300 a bike, 58.50 for a year, just for starters...lol
You will learn after a bit of time where to position yourself around other cars so that you will increase your visability. I've even had two different cops try and run me off the road, one was too busy talking on his cell phone, one just didn't look before he changed lanes......
just gotta have quick reflexes and always be on the alert when in the city on the bike.
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01-17-2005, 09:56 AM
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#113
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 247
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Quote: Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
I said that a 'busa was good for straight lines.........
Hey, that's not entirely fair to the 'busa guys out there (if any)  Even though the bike is ungodly heavy a good rider can ride the twisties with ease. There's a guy in my neighborhood that has to be pushing 300lbs and rides a 'busa every weekend and seems to have no problem keeping up with the lightweights.
You talk about v-twin power... ever hop on a Suzuki TLR? OMG that's some freakin' power! My friend traded up from a Ninja 6R to the TLR and it's torquey as hell. I took it around the block and almost wet myself when I hammered the throttle in 3rd
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01-17-2005, 10:07 AM
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#114
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: NH
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Yea twins really are torquey, ever try a 996 Honda ? Same deal, power band is real low in RPM's.
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01-17-2005, 10:17 AM
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#115
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Location: Little Elm, Texas
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Quote: Originally Posted by drait
Hey, that's not entirely fair to the 'busa guys out there (if any)  Even though the bike is ungodly heavy a good rider can ride the twisties with ease. There's a guy in my neighborhood that has to be pushing 300lbs and rides a 'busa every weekend and seems to have no problem keeping up with the lightweights.
You talk about v-twin power... ever hop on a Suzuki TLR? OMG that's some freakin' power! My friend traded up from a Ninja 6R to the TLR and it's torquey as hell. I took it around the block and almost wet myself when I hammered the throttle in 3rd 
a REALLY good rider can ride just about anything, but the fact is that the busa was designed to be a straight line bike.....it's where it shines, it's not as good as some other bikes out there for the turns....
yeah - torque is a nice thing.....=]
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