My setup and wiring.. does it work..

Ryann · 07-12-2005, 09:33 PM

Ok people.. ive done all my reading.. my eyes are sore.. ive searched.. ive done evrything i could to get to this stage.. just need a few tips on were i should put fuses.. or anything if i need too and what size.. and if my system works through your eyes... only thing im kinda not sure about is powering my LCD.. any pointers for my system is WELL appreciated, like cable sizes etc.. do u think its necessary to use a 150w power? i only plan on adding most likely a GPS and a sound card that will forward to my amps.. to this system and i havent shown my 2 amps speakers and subs because i think i can sort that out myself..

Thanks

Stealth97 · 07-12-2005, 09:47 PM

looks good. Just power the LCD from a 12v connector on the PSU

Ryann · 07-12-2005, 10:05 PM

so just cut into the 12v line running from my PSU to mainboard.. and run it to my screen?

instead of running the screen power from my mainboard..

Cheekz185 · 07-12-2005, 10:11 PM

I would just hack into a molex connector from the PSU. Just use the yellow and (1) black line from a molex.

Ryann · 07-13-2005, 02:06 AM

yellow being 12v and black being ground i guess yea? and solder/join to the power outlet of the moniter.?

OK heres a lil change or 2..

like i said i have 2 amps, two 6 inch component speakers, 2 tweaters and a sub.. now how important is it to run a sound card? i do not wanna have my head deck anymore.. i was to get rid of it all together.. and rewire my syystem.. can someone give me some tips on hooking up that sort of speaker setup with 2 amps?

thanks..

Ok heres what ive come up with price wise..

512 RAM $78 - Ebay - New
CREATIVE SOUNDBLASTER AUDIGY 2 ZS $110 - Ebay - New

VIA EPIA SP13000 Mini-ITX Motherboard AND
OPUS 150 watt DC-DC power Supply SFX.1215 $622 - mp3car

Maxtor DiamondMax 10 160GB Hard Disk $135 - Ebay New
LG GSA-4163B DUAL LAYER DVD BURNER 16X $75 - Ebay New

This is all up without the screen... im tossing up what i should do for a screen.. do you you think 7inch is big enough?

Also does anyone know when this lcd will be available?
http://www.digitalww.com/DWW-K301.htm

Total.. $1020 Aussie Dollars Plus wire.. n cables etc.

NeckPayne · 07-13-2005, 05:51 AM

Looks like a sweet setup....wondering if you could save money on the MoBo though since it looks like you're not doing a whole lot with the system.

As far as wiring...there's a lot of info on here, but this thread should help a good deal:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/faq-emporium/32430-how-get-sound-pc-car-stereo-amp.html

Ryann · 07-13-2005, 06:06 AM

Thanks neck..

Sure im all up for saving money.. in good with home pc's but im not sure what kinda car pc setup im going to need.. i dont want it to lag.. at all.. so i have like 512 ram for it.. good mainboard etc.. because i want it to be fast.. but if you guys think i dont need to have such products please tell me so i can adjust it to suit me better.. i would appreciate it alot.. thanks again.

im going to be using it for..

* Mp3 playing
* Video Playing
* Dvds
* Burning cd's / dvds (if people want stuff)
* GPS (eventually)
* Radio (Eventually, when i figure it out)
* Image viewing off digi camera, maybe even dv video viewing off digi vidcam.

Jeeve5 · 07-13-2005, 06:35 AM

Well I am still reluctatnt on putting in 7,200rpm HDDs. Think about getting a 5,400rpm one. Works for me. Just a security issue since 7,200rpm ones run hotter and fail faster on shock

Ryann · 07-13-2005, 06:48 AM

thanks jeeve5!!

anyone else experience HDD problems?

Im also just reading up on FM Tuner cards.. one problem.. i dont have a spare pci to throw one in.. any ideas on what i can do? to also receive FM

NeckPayne · 07-13-2005, 06:11 PM

You also might consider a slim CD/DVD rom. Like the laptop harddrives, I believe in addition to being smaller, they may use less energy, but their also designed for a more mobile application and so have greater movement tolerances.

I'm never one to argue against more power, but the more you use, the more peripherals you add, the hotter it will run, and the thinner your wallet gets. The M10000 initially seems like it would be slow especially when compared to the higher epia series or pentium chips, but you won't really be using the computer to "multitask" either (well maybe you will) but at the most you'd probably surf the internet while playing mp3s so all that power (and RAM, you can probably get by with 256) may not be necessary. Also, XP can be dumbed down (N-lite) so you can conserve some system resources that run in the background

I haven't built mine yet, still planning like yourself. I was going to stick with the M10000, 256 RAM, slim slot CDRW/DVD-ROM and a 40 GB laptop HD. Once I start adding on the TV/FM tuner card, the VGA display, GPS, cables, USB stuff, I'm hitting over $1000 USD ($1,334.78 AUD).

Which reminds me...sounds like you plan on expanding in the future, can I recommend planning a head and running a powered USB hub to the front of the car? This can also be powered off the 5V rail from the PSU and increase your ability to connect the touch screen, dashboard CD/DVD, flash/key drive, OBD USB connector (instead of serial), etc. Also consider USB Wireless for transferring all the media to that HD from your house to the car.

You can get both USB Sound or Tuner cards; if you only have one slot, its whichever is more important. You can also get PCI riser cards which can expand the number of PCI slots you have (depending on your space constraints). However, there are issues (that I'm not completely sure about) about how the information gets to the MB from these. They can be either active or passive depending on whether the chip or the MB assigns IRQs to the PCI slots. That's about as in depth as I understand/can explain it.

Just my more than 2 cents....

Ryann · 07-14-2005, 04:25 AM

thanks a million neck! good advice!

with these powered usb hubs.. im looking now at some.. wats the advantage of a powered one... rather than one that gets its power from the usb itself? its all coming fom the same place?

ryann,

Jeeve5 · 07-14-2005, 04:27 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ryann

thanks jeeve5!!

anyone else experience HDD problems?

Im also just reading up on FM Tuner cards.. one problem.. i dont have a spare pci to throw one in.. any ideas on what i can do? to also receive FM

Well there are USB FM tuners but none of them perform well once you start driving. There is just NO tuner around made for a PC that works well under driving conditions. Sorry. I am suing the D-Link DRU-R100 and it works well as long as I drive around town but that's it. Don't get me started on highway/Autobahn use

Cheekz185 · 07-14-2005, 12:16 PM

I bought the Radio-Xtreme USB FM Radio.
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/atta...chmentid=16472

And for the antenna i just bought a antenna extender. Cut the male end off. Put a coaxial F tip on the cut end. And then bought and F Connecter to 1/8 and plugged it in to Radio Xtreme. Reception is really good!

NeckPayne · 07-14-2005, 10:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ryann

with these powered usb hubs.. im looking now at some.. wats the advantage of a powered one... rather than one that gets its power from the usb itself? its all coming fom the same place?

I had the same question myself...when I asked it, I got the answer that you should have the powered hub. I'm sure if we thought about it in terms of parallel paths of electricity maybe it would make more sense. I think when you start adding multiple devices which are all drawing current, powering the hub helps to (1) transmit the signal down a long line since USB 2.0 is supposed to be <16 feet unless you use an "extender?" and (2) physically allows more current to be drawn in total in order to power the devices.

Anyone else have a better explanation??

Also....

Quote: Originally Posted by Jeeve5

There is just NO tuner around made for a PC that works well under driving conditions. Sorry.

They are working on this in the hardware development...hopefully this will be available soon.
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/hardware-development/40612-hu-quality-am-fm-rds-rbds-radio-features.html