F-Body Ideas - Camaro and Firebird - Page 10

narandomsortofw · 09-30-2006, 10:31 PM

55" is end to end. That's the length that I had lengthened the cable, but that didn't work. Maybe making even tighter would of made it work.

narandomsortofw · 10-03-2006, 01:56 AM

Any progress?

You know I have just realized that the moving the HVAC project has been a major topic for almost a year now. Just a thought.

JasonWW · 10-03-2006, 09:16 PM

Yea, and no one has really figured out a good way to do it yet. Most guys give up and a few just decide to move it to the glove box. This hasn't been a weekend project for me, it's tough stuff. I've been tossing theories around for a while, but I would only count from the time I got my extra cable in from the dealer as my starting point in actually figuring out how the whole thing works and the forces involved. So far my progress is good. So good I finally ordered my 10.4" screen, so I'm committed now.

Keep in mind I'm juggling a dozen projects so it may be a while. I still need to measure for a center console install, but I'm also considering another location. Right above the center vents. I was considering putting my Alpine controller there and I swore I did a PS of the climate controls there, but I can't find it. Anyway, below is a pic of the location.

joesmith136 · 10-03-2006, 09:56 PM

Here are a few pictures of my 2000 camro with a 15" in the dash

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia...858_2_-med.JPG

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia...859_2_-med.JPG

http://www.norcal-ls1.com/multimedia...853_2_-med.JPG

these pics are a few months old so still pretty messy in thes pics but gives you an idea

JasonWW · 10-03-2006, 10:10 PM

Wholy cow! That's great, but why so big? People said the 10.4" was awefully large, but I wanted it anyway because it can fit.

Do you have more info on how you modded the dash?

turbocad6 · 10-03-2006, 11:17 PM

hey joesmith, another portrait mode install, cool!!!

there are very few so far that I've seen, the only 2 permanent portrait installs I know of, I did

you got a ton of screen area there, what are you using as a frontend?

that thing is just massive

jason, it's nutz to juggle all these projects, why are we so nuts???

keep it up though man, it'll all get finished one day... that's what I keep telling myself anyway, what screen did you wind up getting?

Firebird · 10-04-2006, 03:22 AM

@ JasonWW: On the second picture you posted at the beginning of this thread, i can see a connection cable to the DLC OBD II 16 PIN connector.
Why?

Greetings, Bernhard

JasonWW · 10-04-2006, 01:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

Jason, it's nutz to juggle all these projects, why are we so nuts???

keep it up though man, it'll all get finished one day... that's what I keep telling myself anyway, what screen did you wind up getting?

I ordered a 10.4" Lilliput. With shipping and everything it's just under $300 so that's not bad.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lilli...5252QQtcZphoto
More info and pics are here:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/show...1&postcount=45

Quote: Originally Posted by Firebird

@ JasonWW: On the second picture you posted at the beginning of this thread, i can see a connection cable to the DLC OBD II 16 PIN connector.
Why?

Do you mean Curious's car? He has a OBD data port thing that tells him all the cars data on the PC. Those can be bought a few places. I think his is the T16-006 with an adaptor cable from this place.
http://curioustech.home.insightbb.com/
He's an electrical engineer and designs a lot of cool stuff. There is a link by the pictures to his website.

Here is a similar one.
http://store.mp3car.com/ProductDetai...Code=COM%2D013

JasonWW · 10-04-2006, 02:14 PM

I'm trying to come up with a good idea to redo my current sound system and so far I think I could use some new subs. My current ones are 9 years old now, so they are due. I have 2 amps that produce 600w at 4ohm mono to power them with. Now due to me wanting to use the back storage well for my junk, I want to use the gas tank and rear seat area for my new install.

I know I want the subs as far back as I can get them so that means they will be under the rear window. I can fit a 2 cu ft box there and mount 2 12's or I can go bigger and mount 2 15's. To get the extra space I will extend the box forward and then down at a 45* angle. That angle would be a great spot to mount all 3 of my amps together in one long row. They would be easily seen right behind the seats if the windows were down and they were lit up. I can mount the PC and other parts right below the amps facing straight forward. I'll still have some storage in the rear foot wells, but the rear seat area will mostly be used up in order to get the 4-5 cu ft I would need.

What do you guys think of this idea?
Do you think 1200w on a pair of 15's is fine?
Would the difference in output be worth the larger box and extra weight?

narandomsortofw · 10-04-2006, 08:26 PM

I Think two 12" Solo Barics would work best for you. They aren't really that expensive http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=39777 . 1500 watt mtx or kicker amp would be sweet too. I have an 8" in the middle of my car with a mtx rt251d (mono block 275 watt amp) and I love it. It's not overpowering and I can enjoy it.

JasonWW · 10-04-2006, 10:04 PM

I'm not too keen on the solobarics with their low sensitivity and compromised design in order to work in a small box. I was thinking more along the lines of the Elemental Designs 16Ov.2 or 130v.2 and I already have the amps, so I need to make sure the new subs work well with them.

I'm still thinking of getting the 15's as most f-bodies have a pair of 12's and I'd like a more than that.

Does anyone know if the difference in output be worth the larger box and extra weight?

JasonWW · 10-05-2006, 04:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by narandomsortofw

55" is end to end. That's the length that I had lengthened the cable, but that didn't work. Maybe making even tighter would of made it work.

I measured about 56" from center to center so I'm going to cut the sheath a little longer and see if I can thread it from the console to the dash. I need to cut a hole out in the console for the wires and cables to go through, but I hate taking the console out. I might be able to cut the hole with it in the car with my dremel and then vacuum up the mess. I'll start with the sheath a little long and then shorten it as necessary and once I get it's legnth finalized I'll start cutting the actual cable to length.

narandomsortofw, if you want to start collecting parts you can go to a bicycle shop and find a brake cable sheath that has a large enough inner diameter for the 2 cables. You can also go to a fishing supply store and find a 7x7 (7 strands of 7) 49 strand stainless cable. I got some that was 90lb weight, but other brands may have a different weight strength. The important thing is that the diameter needs to be 0.030". Any larger and it may not work. I need to test and take pictures of the crimp size and style and get a working unit together. I'm also finalizing how to connect the 2 sheaths together so they will stay centered as well as be removable in case a new cable needs to be threaded through.

Below is a picture I found on the internet. It is 70lb and 0.030, but my local place had 90lb in the same diameter. 70 or 90 are both fine.

JasonWW · 10-06-2006, 10:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by narandomsortofw

Extending the electrical wasn't a problem at all. I bought somewhere around 60' of 14 gauge wire and 12' of 18 gauge wire (there is total of like 15 wires to lengthen). Just be ready to do some crimping....I used 1/4" vacuum tubing for the vacuum lines. They fit right over the top of the existing lines. They fit on kind of snug and I used super glue to securely keep them connected. It works like a charm...here is my setup.

narandomsortofw, in your pic below, do you have the little air bag or whatever box right in the way under the cupholder (on 6 speed cars)? If so, how did you route all the wires and stuff. I can't even get a finger through all that junk. Did you have to do a lot of cutting under there to make everything fit through?

solo44 · 10-08-2006, 03:22 AM

I built a custom enclosure that sits wear my back seet used to be...i've got two Audiobahn 15's and two 12's i can control them as pairs so i can turn one set on and the other set off and vicewersa...anyway these is a huge difference for me in the amount and depth of the bass...and also volume....but the 15's have a much large dual voice coil...what i can tell you from my readings is that the more surface area your subs have the more air the can push which in turn gives you better or atleast more bass....alright that's all i have...how do i post pics on here?

solo44 · 10-08-2006, 04:03 AM

hey is there anyway i can get my 98ta's wiring diagrams on the internet...possibly for free? Some of the wiring lingo you guys use i'm not so familiar with....