Electric shock car alarm system !!!!!!!! - Page 5

ergman · 07-20-2006, 04:49 PM

I have had way to many break ins into to my car. I have had it broken into in good areas, bad areas (no doubt on that one), In front of my house. And what these people are saying is true. Some cracked out dope head breaks into your car, STEALS (this is against the law too you know) your stuff, damages your property, causes you to lose time at work, Making you buy/replace everything your insurance won't cover (what a rip off), which in the end costs 5 times more than all of this is worth and you are the one to get sued by a the real criminal because you decided to protect your rightfully purchased and earned belongings (I like that sentence). Not only did that just cost you 5 times more that it is worth but then you get screwed by the justice system, law, cops, and everyone else who says you can protect your stuff but not to the extent of REALLY protecting it because a crack head may get injured (oh yeah, being a crack head is against the law too). Now you have a criminal record for punching the guy and keeping you stuff safe.

Anyhow I am very sensitve to this subject and by all means am not promoting any type of force or violent booby trapping, but hey if you are going to get screwed as desribed above....I say you nuke the bastard with every volt you can throw at him. At least you get the satisfaction of juicing someone. You gonna get screwed anyways.

Cheers

scelsi14 · 08-09-2006, 09:14 AM

I have a question for all of you lawyers, and anybody else who opposes this idea for that matter. You adamantly oppose any sort of electrical shock inside of the car. Which, as was previously said, would require the criminal to admit to breaking and entering to receive said shock in the case of a lawsuit. The alternative being mentioned over and over again is to use piezo sirens at 100db+. At 115db it takes 30 seconds or less for permanent damage to occur and I know there are sirens capable of higher db's than these. This is not to say that the sirens can't cause instant damage to anyone. The time is just an averaged number.

My question is how a siren or many sirens which is likely the case, which can cause permanent hearing loss as opposed to a shock that only causes soreness, a better choice as far as a lawsuit? In this country's sad state of a legal system, I would think the thief with permanent hearing damage would be much more likely to win in court.

I think the way to do this is to put the electrodes at the places that you would grab to rip off an interior piece. This would locate these points well away from normal occupancy of the vehicle. That removes any chance you could accidentally hurt yourself or an innocent in the event that the system didn't work correctly.

FC3S · 08-09-2006, 11:12 AM

the answer to not get the lawsuit at all

is to use high enough voltage to kill them, and say it was self defense

then he cant sue you, because hes dead

(just make sure he still has that screwdriver, as its a concealed weapon

)

kevinlekiller · 08-11-2006, 07:13 PM

2 words , Disposable camera , you open it up and use the pcb , hook it up to a 1.5v source , pass 2 wires to the capacitor. Gives 300-350v shocks , and trust me they shock lol , I made some tasers with those cameras , its not strong enough to kill ,but its feels stronger then getting shocked on 120.

Be carefull when you open it up , cause I got a few shocks while opening them , its not fun lol

FC3S · 08-12-2006, 01:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by kevinlekiller

2 words , Disposable camera , you open it up and use the pcb , hook it up to a 1.5v source , pass 2 wires to the capacitor. Gives 300-350v shocks , and trust me they shock lol , I made some tasers with those cameras , its not strong enough to kill ,but its feels stronger then getting shocked on 120.

Be carefull when you open it up , cause I got a few shocks while opening them , its not fun lol

you wouldnt've hurt any friends after doing this would you?, haha

wait, why else would you do it...

stillatin6 · 08-12-2006, 02:02 AM

what about if the robber wears some kind of gloves?

FC3S · 08-12-2006, 07:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by stillatin6

what about if the robber wears some kind of gloves?

they arent that smart, i mean, they just want to leave fingerprints everywhere dont they?

P3rv3rt B3ar · 08-12-2006, 10:02 AM

This must be stupidest idea ive heard for a while... competes with the guy who planned to install paintball guns on car...

FC3S · 08-12-2006, 10:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by P3rv3rt B3ar

This must be stupidest idea ive heard for a while... competes with the guy who planned to install paintball guns on car...

i'd always thought that would be fun for go-karts, shoot your friend in the face and watch him run into the tires on the side

kevinlekiller · 08-13-2006, 07:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by FC3S

you wouldnt've hurt any friends after doing this would you?, haha

wait, why else would you do it...

The idea came from my friend opening his camera to see if he can change the film , then he touched the capacitor and got a huge chock , after that we put wires to the cap and screws on the other end , screws was put on a box with the guts of the camera.

Then we tested the 300-350v tazer on ourselfs lol. The shocks are bad.

0l33l · 08-26-2006, 12:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by kevinlekiller

Then we tested the 300-350v tazer on ourselfs lol. The shocks are bad.

That's probably why you think that your camera idea is good

GoHybrid · 08-26-2006, 12:51 AM

gosh.. for all the time and money to implement, defend, replace, insure your precious car contents... what about methods for just preventing entry in the first place? what about a few layers of security laminates that keeps your glass together upon impact? (i know the glass still breaks, but it's ingress you're trying to prevent). What about hidden deadbolts either manually or electronically operated to prevent the doors from opening even if the factory locks are disengaged?...

and then if we were hell bent on assaulting the intruder's well-being, what about strobe lights? granted they don't do much in case of a daytime break-in... but i think the majority would be under cover of darkness... if your eyes are trying to adjust to daylight and blackness every 2 seconds, you're not going to make much progress.

here's another thought... we're all supposedly into the carPC idea. your computer is a wonderful tool for automation. Why not when the entry alarm (not shock sensor) is triggered have it dial out to 911 (cell phone or otherwise) and play a recorded audio file reporting a burglary in process followed by a text-to-speech rendition of your gps coordinates or street intersections?

dabbling down those roads i think might avoid the lawsuits and they're just more ideas to improve security or response.

just my $.02, fire at will.

FC3S · 08-26-2006, 04:42 AM

i like that idea, but i can see it now

someone breaks into my car, computer starts dialing wrong number, and someone in the next city wonders who's prank calling them

GoHybrid · 08-26-2006, 09:49 AM

heh.. it's only gotta dial three numbers! i know computers aren't the pinnacle of reliability, but i think you'd have to suffer some pretty serious corruption to change 9-1-1 in a text file to anything else (provided someone wasn't diddling with your system before)

maybe it could phone the president instead. He'd probably talk back.

FC3S · 08-26-2006, 10:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GoHybrid

heh.. it's only gotta dial three numbers! i know computers aren't the pinnacle of reliability, but i think you'd have to suffer some pretty serious corruption to change 9-1-1 in a text file to anything else (provided someone wasn't diddling with your system before)

maybe it could phone the president instead. He'd probably talk back.

yeah, i've had a lot of problems with computers that you'd think shouldnt happen..

what if the computer hung while dialing, 91111111111111111111.......

wonder what the operator would think, lol