SentraVIP

Hi all,

Wondering if this i's possible?

Using M2ATX with M863 mobo (S1 Standby only)

I set the comp to Standby when the power button is triggered by the M2. Then set a time frame for it (say1 hour) to go hibernate/shutoff before the M2 cuts completely the power at the end of 2 hours?

Is that possible?

Also will it drain the battery since the M2 still supplies power to the mobo. I know the mobo will not drain anything since it's on hibernation/shutdown.


Thanks in advance!

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2k1Toaster

The M2 only has preset limits. The closest to what you want is what I use. It is called "Taxi" mode or something. 30seconds it goes to standby. Then after 2 hours, it pulls the plug.

The M2 supplies no power to the mobo after the "plug is pulled" 2hrs later. Not even usb devices. So no power drain. Well really, a very little amount for the M2 itself.

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SentraVIP

Hi Toaster,

I understand what you mean, but I just wanna have a fail safe measure, hence the Mode 2 (5sec to PowerOff button, 2hrs to powercut).

So it's doable, right?

2k1Toaster

That is what it is designed to do.

You want it to work like this right?

Music playing car on.
Pull out the key.
Music keeps playing for 5 seconds
Then the M2 simulates a power button press sending the computer in to standby
If the power button is not pressed again or simulated by turning the engine on again within 2 hours, pull the plug.

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SentraVIP

Yup, exectly!

But I'm hoping that the PC will goes into hibernation/shutdown procedure before M2 pulls the plug though. Don't want to corrupt the systems...

2k1Toaster

No it won't tell it to shutdown. It is the equivalent of physically pulling the plug from the wall. Since it is already in Standby, the HD will be fine.

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RooDBwoY

i was wondering about this actually.
so, the psu sets the comp into standby when ignition removed, but then the hard-off is literally pulling power from the board completely?

surely this doesn't count as a proper shutdown and will cause windows to complain on next boot-up? or is it fine to remove power so long as it's been sat in standby?

also, should the windows setup be set to go into standby or hibernation on 'power button press' ?

2k1Toaster

Yup.


Nope. That little flash of the blue "logoff screen" saves your settings and prepares your computer's settings to be shut off. However all programs running will be the equivalent of force exited. If you have stuff in Word for example, it will probably bring up an AutoRecovery file. Try it on your homePC. Tell it to standby. Wait a sec or two. And then yank the cord out of the wall. Wait about 5-10 seconds and plug it in, and turn it on. Everything will be fine. The only time you get a "A serious error has occurred, please notify Microsoft" is when the plug is pulled before that blue logoff screen is finished. YOu can try that too, but you really shouldn't try to do that!


All up to you. I have mine set on Standby. I deliver chinese food so constant stopping and starting. About 8-10 times an hour the PC goes into standby, and back out. Instantaneous music. I would be pretty ****ed if I had to wait 10-15 seconds for hibernate, and even more ****ed if I had to wait 20-22 seconds for a cold boot.

Standby takes more power because it powers the RAM, but really it is negligable over short times (under ~5hrs). So in the 2 hours before the plug is pulled more power is being drawn than if I had put it into hibernate or full power off. I never notice any difference when I go to start the car though!

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SentraVIP

I understand on how the M2 works. But what I'm refering to is that is there an option in windows itself that can do this?

"Press power button" = Standby = Resume back to hibernate/shutdown after a preset time frame.

I've tried that in the Power Options in the control panel. No go.

What I did;

Set 'When the Power Button is pressed' = Standby

then on the next page I set the option of 'Hibernate after 1 minute'.

It doesn't work.


Any ideas?

2k1Toaster

did you set the "advanced" options part to "wake computer to perform this task"?

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SentraVIP

Now that's something new... Which part of "Advance" option? I don't have the part where it says "wake comp to perform this task"?

2k1Toaster

When you make a new task, on the last screen there is a little checkbox saying open advanced options after closing this window.

Not power options, but "Create new systems task". Then just make a little *.bat file that is "shutdown -s -f -t xx" where xx is time to wait and have it run on system logoff. Then have it "wake to perform this task".

Something along those lines. There is probably a fancy way of doing this, but I don't know off the top of my head.

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SentraVIP

... But now I'm really confused

I really can't catch what you're saying there. Where can I create new system task? How do I make a '.bat' file? and what is "shutdown -s -f -t xx"

2k1Toaster

Alrighty...

Start --> Program Files --> Accessories --> System Tools --> Scheduled Tasks

Then follow the prompts.

As for making a *.bat file. Open up notepad or any text editor that will not use formatting. Expecially NOT Word! Or to be extra geeky start the Command Prompt (Start --> Run --> "cmd" OR Start--> Program Files --> Accessories --> Command Prompt) and type "edit C:\FileName.bat" and an editor will pop up.

Then type in all your commands and then when you save, click "Save As" and then choose "All file types" not "Text File *.txt" and then type in a filename and put ".bat" after it. THat will create a bat file wherever you specify.

As for the "shutdown -s -f -t xx": shutdown is a command in Windows XP that starts the shutdown routine nicely. Before with 98 and such you had to actually stop a dll processes. Anyways, "-s" means shutdown. "-r" is restart "-l" is logoff. And then "-f" is force shutdown meaning that if some program freezes on shutdown, it will definately go away. And then "-t xx" is a delay. It means don't do that now, do it in xx seconds. To get a full description, open the command prompt and type "shutdown /?" at a full list of details will be shown. The only way to stop it, is by typing "shutdown -a" where is "-a" means abort.

Go ahead and try it to get the full details. "shutdown -i" will bring up a GUI where you can choose stuff, but useless for automation.

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rogov

I was wondering how do you make this run on system logoff?
The only choices I see are:

Daily
Weekly
Monthly
Once
At System Startup
At Logon
When Idle

Is there a way to launch it upon going into standby?

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