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Old 01-10-2007, 03:00 PM   #16
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Ruffy, just because you had noise problems and were never satisfied with the work you did, doesn't mean that's the case for everybody.

I got my entire CarPC, all the components, wires, screws, wood, whatever, for about $1,200. I had a few problems with noise like you said, then I rewired the whole thing and it went away. I can crank the volume up and still have perfect clarity with no hissing.

You CAN have a perfectly functioning CarPC that can compete with any HU for cheap. However, if I may steal a line from infomercials, your experience may differ.
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:47 AM   #17
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Write Up in Popular Science

Somewhat of a dead thread, but the Azentek Atlas CPC-1000 ($2500.00) had a little write up in this month’s (May 2007) Popular Science Rock And Roll section.

The section also included briefs on:

Alpine PXE-H650 Audio Signal Processor ($450.00) – Removes all factory equalization, balances all sound levels using DSP power, sums channels, and flattens the output signals so that amplifier and speaker upgrades can be added to a factory system.

Info Link – http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/car...processor.html

Blaupunkt THA 475 ($400.00) – Is a tiny, cool running, four-channel 75-watt amp. It is technically plug and play since it utilizes 40 different wiring harnesses for about 2000 car models. Install it with out a shop in just fifteen minutes with no crimping, splicing, or soldering.

Link – http://www.blaupunkt.com/us/7607792130_main.asp

Visteon HD Jump ($250.00) – This transportable High Definition Jump unit utilizes a docking cradle to deliver premium new HD2 multicast channels and crystal-clear sound, both in the car, as well as in the home. The HD Jump offers the full spectrum of HD Radio features, including program-associated data, such as real-time song title, artist and album information, as well as multicasting, where available.

Link - http://www.evisteon.com/prod_serv/mo...mp/index.shtml

Kenwood KOS-V1000 ($700.00) – Essentially it is a headless radio, meaning it has all the audiophile characteristics and capabilities of a radio, but without the actual in-dash chassis and faceplate. You can use it to by-pass your factory radio system. It has a built-in 50 x 4 amplifier, AM/FM RDS tuner that you can control with a dash-mounted touch screen. You can an integrate an HD, Sirius or XM radio tuner, hands-free Bluetooth cell phone adapter, GPS navigation. It has two high-speed USB 2.0 ports to add iPod or mass storage device, 2 A/V inputs, front, rear, and subwoofer 5V preamp outputs, and 4 external switch outputs that can be wired to any 12-volt source for things like lighting, garage door opener, motorization, or any other accessory.

Link – http://www.kenwoodusa.com/products/L...k3=220&pr=2738

In the How 2.0 Section was a DIY Dashtop Computer in-a box system that you can move from car to car, and runs off a single cigarette-lighter socket. The system components were all contained in a portable carbon-fiber-veneer wood box. Details at http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how20/d...cbccdrcrd.html

The system comprised of:

Mac Mini Computer System – Apple (Also mentioned Vizualogic VMOD)
TRANS 7” VGA transflective monitor – MP3Car.com
RAP-B-104-224U windshield cradle mount – Ram Mounting Systems
CNX-P1900 Power Supply Unit – Carnetix
Front End – StreetDeck (Also mentioned Road Runner as a free option)
Internet – Verizon Wireless USB 720 modem (Also mentioned AutoNet Mobile Router)
Mini-Key USB Keyboard DGPN-570 – MP3Car.com
Virtual Private Network – Hamachi.cc for remote connection to your home PC files
ElmScan 5 USB OBD-II Scan Tool – ScanTool.net
GPS Dongle

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Old 07-27-2007, 09:28 AM   #18
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We've had some demo units in our office for a couple months now, these things SUCK, they haven't even got the radio working in them yet.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:41 AM   #19
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If you notice the UI, it looks like that Centrafuse (sp?) front end. Someone made some business deals.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:39 PM   #20
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Quote: Originally Posted by freedom9ner View Post
If you notice the UI, it looks like that Centrafuse (sp?) front end. Someone made some business deals.

it is Centrafuse, when you exit to the XP desktop the shortcut to the UI is Centrafuse
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:12 PM   #21
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grimor2000, I don't know who you are or what sample(s) you have but they must be pretty old. Our current units which are very close to production are fully functional with AM/FM and every other feature you could want.

If you have an old sample, you probably don't have our custom designed interface either. The older ones did contain a standard Centrafuse GUI but we now have a custom-designed UI from Centrafuse that will be in the production units.

I can promise you that there aren't any other "all-in-one" devices out there with the speed, memory, disc capacity, add-on abilities, and features of the Azentek Atlas. On top of that, we are already beginning the design of Atlas version 2 (to be previewed at SEMA this year) which adds even more!

Granted, almost everyone here has the knowledge and ability to build a DIY system and this unit may not be geared toward you, but there is still a vast amount of consumers out there who want computing capabilities in their car and don't have the ability to build an in-car system themselves. This unit is perfect for them - especially if they want a unit that has almost the same computing power as their desktop or laptop.

Lastly, I just want to mention that this is my first time posting here and that I would like to begin contributing here regularly. If anyone ever has any questions, feel free to contact me at pmuller@azentek.com. I'd also like to invite everyone to check out our newly redesigned web site (just launched it on Monday) at http://www.azentek.com.

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Old 09-19-2007, 09:56 AM   #22
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Just saw a pre-production unit in my office... didn't get to play with it, but it looked pretty good and it is well loaded with features... just about everything that people here want in their CarPC. IT comes with Windows, but I know that it'll also run Ubuntu Linux....
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:49 PM   #23
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Just buying a cheap $100 dollar amp does nothing because you still have to get your signal TO the amp and thats what I was emphasizing. It's one of the biggest gripes about carpc's I see. Show me a cheap solution that gives high quality aftermarket like sound to an amp for under $100 that doesnt have induced audio noise, jitter problems, raises the noise floor. Every onboard solution ive tried in a car has audible noise, and to me that wont do. Hell my X-Fi Fatality on my homePC has audible noise if it's around any funky equipment.

I bought my bluetooth adapter for $6 bucks And it works.

That being said at the end of the day a cheap carpc using a cheap usb sound or cheap pci sound card will not sound as good as something like a Pioneer Z1 or this. My shuttle doesnt sound good connected to my amps, or the higher end JL audio setup my friend has in his car using just 1/8" to RCA cable. The noise floor is incredibly high. My laptop has the same issue when connected to either setup. There's an audible hiss and the volume is low. My friend tried a carpc, went with a opus 250w for power, a mp3car store like carpc. Then ditched it after pouring alot of money trying to get the sound how he wanted it. Now he runs a Pioneer Z1 and can't be happier. We tried various usb/pci solutions for him, Even went into the audiophile range of sound cards and none compare to the aftermarket unit. His car PC is now his HTPC.

What speakers are you using with your x-fi??

I can remember the first computer I had. It was a AMD K6-2 500Mhz with a MASSIVE 20gb hard drive and HUGE 128mb SD RAM! That thing was SCHWEET! lol I can remember when browsing the internet, I could hear zzzzzzz sounds coming from the speakers when they were at medium to high volumes!! Really annoying, but hey, when your young, you have to beg your parents for everything, and this must have been a good 10-13 years ago!!

My second computer was entirely picked by me using the components I thought were best bang for the buck so to speak as I only saved up a little bit of money, It was absolutely gorgeous! Infact I still have it, turned it into a HTPC and recently donated it to a friend whose laptop fried!
Everything was onboard and integrated into the motherboard! Integrated Nvidia Geforce 4 graphics core that could actually play Farcry!! Ok so I used to get my *** whooped because the framerate could have been a little better, but was adequate!
It had a amzingly fast AMD Athlon XP 2200+, 512Mb DDR RAM and a massive 80gb hard drive which I thought I would never fill!
It also had an integrated 5.1 Nvidia Soundstorm chip, which was tonnes better than the old computers, no more general hissing, but sometimes would get a little inteference but nothing too major!

My current and newest computer is a beast! Although I do wish i did not go for the "best of the best and the latest"
This computer currently has over 2tb of Hard drives, dual 8800GTX's, a very pretty motherboard with loads of little lights everywhere, 2Gb of the fastest RAM and errm....an Athlon 64 AM2 3500+..........I ran out of money to buy a dual core lol
I also slotted in a Creative Audigy 2 ZS soundcard and hooked up some THX certified Creative S750's 7.1 surround sound speakers....pure 700w RMS of power...122.4dB!!
With this new computer, I hear absolutely NO inteference. There is even no inteference when I am talking on my mobile phone...even when its next to the speaker/amp!

After all what's the point of having a kickass soundcard but the standard speakers that you got for $30? I believe inteference is not only the soundcards fault, but other components within the computer and the speakers themselves!

Oh and just to let you all know how much I spent on my carPC so far.....slash the car...i havent passed my driving test yet lol

Anyway, I bought a faulty Via M10000 on ebay for £15 3-4 years ago
£4 for some replacement capacitors for the motherboard
£13.50 for a used USB GPS unit that uses the SIRFIII Chipset and uses NMEA protocol
£12.50 for a Creative external USB soundcard
£5 for 512mb DDR RAM
£60 for an Opus 150w PSU and a Carnetix p1900 140w Power regulator
£2 for a powered USB hub with some flashy lights
I will either use a spare 120Gb 2.5" HDD or a spare 320Gb 3.5" HDD...or may put in a 500Gb

That is my current expenditure so far, with operating system COA coming from an old laptop and probably using RR.

If I wanted to build a computer capable of running Vista for cheap to be used inside a car, I would buy the following:

Mobo: Albatron KI690-AM2 - 17x17cm ITX mobo which supports desktop processors and has the fastest integrated graphics core available which is a ATi X1250 and also has HD 7.1 channel surround sound. This motherboard was built purely for use as a HTPC!!
CPU: AMD Athlon BE 2300
RAM: 2x512mb Laptop DIMM's

All this can easily be aquired for approx £200 which is roughly $380!! I just wished they would go ahead and release the damn motherboard already!
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Old 09-22-2007, 08:57 AM   #24
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Looks like a nice rig...competes price wise with the Pioneer unit...and seems to have MUCH MORE flexibility.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:40 PM   #25
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I looked at these at the CES show and they looked like very nice units.

Specs:

Atlas CPC-1200 Double DIN HU
Intel Core Duo T2300 1.66GHz with 533/667 FSB
SATA 120GB drive
1GB DDR2 (upgradeable to 2GB)
DVD-ROM & CD-RW Drive
Vista Ultimate
Internal GPS with external antenna
Bluetooth enabled
Multi-color button selection
6.5" TFT touchscreen
802.11b/g
50x4 Watt Amp with SRS
24-bit D/A converter
XM/Sirius ready
FM and Digital TV tuners
DD 5.1 RCA (at 5V)
compostite video out
stereo aux out
SPDIF DD 7.1 optical output
Inputs Front: USB, SD Card, 3.5mm A/V
Inputs Rear: 1 A/V, 2 USB, RS-232, Mic
CANbus integration

Also Shown:
Titan CE-1200
Calypso CPC-1100
Zephyr RVM-450 (GPS Nav Rearview mirror)
Venus CE-1200

If anyone wants specs on these let me know.
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:20 AM   #26
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I just saw the new version posted on CES...pretty nice unit (streamlined for the end-user). I knew it will be soon that this would hit mainstream. Now, all we need it someone to support it for the local dealers. I hope to get in on the action in DFW.
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I wish someone would build the kind of thing I keep hoping for...

First off, either drop x86 or choose a board that can fastboot. If x86 is chosen, look at OLPC for optimizing power consumption.

Second, don't waste space, energy or weight putting an amp in the unit... I'd much rather do that independently. Just give me digital outputs and analog line level output.

Third, use a transflective touchscreen sized for a double-din package and have an integrated DVD-ROM. Whether this involves a motorized screen or a clever package I'm not all that concerned... it's just nice to have a slot-loader in the dash.

Fourth, an integrated DC-DC supply is not a bad idea.

Fifth, give me some USB ports at a minimum, and hopefully include ethernet and wifi with an external antenna. An integrated AM/FM radio would be nice.

Sixth, don't bother with features that don't require the OS, such as a back up cam or a music player. Focus instead on building a hardware and software platform that can be ready in 5 seconds or less.

Seventh, build it on Linux, preferably a tiny embedded distro that will boot quickly with no bloat. Make the whole software stack open source and easy to hack on.

If someone would build the above, I would slap one in the dash of my Miata in a nanosecond.
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