Combined remote / Qwerty keyboard Girder code. - Page 2

Laptopras · 08-22-2003, 07:20 AM

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also do I need to power the receiver with 12V? I dont want to fry the thing.
Thanks for your help Nemesis.

You are correct. You need a 12 v powersupply rated for atleast 50 mh (nearly everything 12 volt will be more than that.) I happened to fine a power supply that had the right plug and was rated 50 mh in a box of old wireless mics, so you never know where you might fine the right one. Good luck hunting for one!

Nemesis · 08-22-2003, 03:59 PM

Yes you certainly do have to power the reciever, mine came with a small 12V 50mA mains power supply.

The unit has a regulator built in so you wont fry it providing you get the connections right, center pin = positive(+12V).

Do this first and see what you get on the serial port, use something like Hyperterm to see if you are getting any data if you are unsure.

cooljavy · 08-24-2003, 06:53 PM

Thanks guys you are great!!. I will have to make a trip to radio shack to get the adapter. I also emaild the guy that I got the remote from (ebay) and he said that did not send the power supply because it is 240V and 3 connectors (UK standard) and that is of not use here (US)
I will post results

Fusion-One · 08-26-2003, 04:52 PM

I just got my remote, and am playing with nemesis's girder file, I got shift working more properly.

Instead of having the shifts act like Caps Lock buttons, I made it so when you press shift, the next button pressed is shifted, then the shift unsets, and all characters typed after are lowercase, until shift is pressed again. It works fairly well, and feels more like normal typing.

One thing im having trouble with is the signal time of the remote.. it seems so slow, I use another remote (rca universal) with my infrared receiver, and it works very well.. instant response, the On Digital remote is so sluggish (and the sluggishness is sporadic, to add to the frustration!), its bad enough that I won't use it on my carpc, since it would be the main means of navigation, having it sluggish and inaccurate is not acceptable. I notice sometimes, it doesn't recognize key presses, and sometimes stops repeating the signal when you hold the button down.. (Like for raising the volume) It's like the remote changes the code when you hold it down, jumps all over with what its transmitting... this would cause the problems I'm experiencing, I think?. The problem is much much much worse on the numeric side of the remote.. the side which I'd be using most... =\ (The problem is pretty much non-existant on the qwerty side)

I'm working with girder on making the blue button switch the directional pad between controlling the mouse with select as click, and controlling the arrow keys with select as enter. Maybe I can even make the mouse cursor hide when cursor control is inactive. This control method will be optimum for me, since I want to use the directional pad to navigate my program, but also want mouse control should I need it.

Am I the only one noticing the problems I'm having, or is something wrong with my settings..

Using the Toshiba setting (906) I've managed to map every single button on the remote.. If I can just fix this sluggish and inaccurate signal I'll be kicking it up in style.

Fusion-One · 08-26-2003, 04:54 PM

Also, I found an excellent source for old female D-Sub 9 Pin serial connectors, with 6 foot lead wires none the less!

Old sega genesis controllers.

cooljavy · 08-26-2003, 08:15 PM

I can not get this puppy to work!!
Fusion-One did you change the pins of the connector? I tried with hyperterminal but did not get anything. I am not sure if the remote/receiver is working at all.
Any help will be appreciated guys!!

Fusion-One · 08-26-2003, 08:32 PM

I changed the pins.. using a gender changer alone will not work, follow the guide nemesis posted, it works.

I couldn't get hyper terminal to work, either.. I found the best test is in the settings of the "generic serial basd IR receiver" plugin for girder, I just kept that open and kept testing the remote.. all o fa sudden the little area that displays what code is being transmitted sprang to life with numbers and letters! I had broken through!

I highly suggest using an old sega genesis controller cord for the wiring.. much easier to do.. just a matter of twisting wires together, no soldering required.

Nemesis · 08-27-2003, 01:56 AM

Fusion-One, glad you got it working.

Fusion-One
[One thing im having trouble with is the signal time of the remote.. it seems so slow, I use another remote (rca universal) with my infrared receiver, and it works very well.. instant response, the On Digital remote is so sluggish (and the sluggishness is sporadic, to add to the frustration!), its bad enough that I won't use it on my carpc, since it would be the main means of navigation]

I did have a similar problem when I first got mine working. I messed around with the key repeat times and managed to get a better response time, try varying the "Anti-repeat wait time" in Girder for the keys that are giving you problems.

What about posting your revisions for the shift control I would be interested to see what you did.

Fusion-One · 08-28-2003, 06:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Nemesis

Fusion-One, glad you got it working.

Fusion-One
[One thing im having trouble with is the signal time of the remote.. it seems so slow, I use another remote (rca universal) with my infrared receiver, and it works very well.. instant response, the On Digital remote is so sluggish (and the sluggishness is sporadic, to add to the frustration!), its bad enough that I won't use it on my carpc, since it would be the main means of navigation]

I did have a similar problem when I first got mine working. I messed around with the key repeat times and managed to get a better response time, try varying the "Anti-repeat wait time" in Girder for the keys that are giving you problems.

What about posting your revisions for the shift control I would be interested to see what you did.

Cool, I'll be playing around with it a bit more later next week.. things are very hectic here right now.. Thanks for the tip

Heres my current girder file.. please dont make fun of it, I know its horrible. :P

ttyl
-Jared

Blop · 09-04-2003, 05:18 AM

So to ask a stupid question cause this whole thread has seemed to destroyed my already fragile mind to the point i cant understand anything.......

Does this controller work with an Ir Man?

Does it come with with a male db 9 connector which needs to be converted to a male?

Nemesis · 09-04-2003, 09:29 AM

It comes with a 9-way male that if you want it to plug in a standard com port you need a female.

I have no idea if it will work with a IRman(i don't even know what one is !!).

My remote and those for sale on ebay come with an interface unit.

If you download the file from my web site there is a short text file that explains it.

http://www.g8stw.demon.co.uk/On-Digital_Public.zip

Blop · 09-04-2003, 10:28 AM

That link doesnt seem to work at the mo will try later......

From what ive read it sounds as if there are 2 ir outputs on the controller and the IR Man will recieve the standard out and the qwerty stuff will go the other........

so it may work if i have both ir recievers plugged in...

Just for your info and irman is a great ir thingy...

http://www.evation.com/

Nemesis · 09-04-2003, 12:21 PM

Sorry the link was broken, works ok now.

The remote will work with only one reciever plugged in, either the qwerty section or the front keys depending on which receiver is working.

Hope that makes sense

shadowlessman · 09-04-2003, 03:39 PM

I know this is a bit OT, but has anyone considered an RF remote instead of an IR one? A cool mod would be to change this remote to an RF remote (900 Mhz range would be good).

Any thoughts?

Blop · 09-04-2003, 04:55 PM

i understood up to "I know"...