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Old 07-15-2005, 06:43 PM   #46
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i tried version 5. in the car.. i found it quite useless :P maybe intergrated bit better... still stopped using it and started using d3
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Old 07-16-2005, 05:40 AM   #47
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/me wallops Maximus with the stupid stick

No comment.... I borrowed one for an artical I am doing compairing all the GPS software out there at the mo... and I still say with its flaws I like Altuion purley on its functionality... its interface is another issue and I for one would like to use it full time but at the same time ( bad grammer there ) help them develp it more for the touch screen enviroment.

All they have to do is addin US maps and you have got one 'Destinator Killer' bit of software. ( Oh and make the sdk better ).

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Old 07-16-2005, 06:49 AM   #48
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and I still say with its flaws I like Altuion purley on its functionality

Maybe I'm overly negative, but it seems as the very few "fan-boys" out there like it only because
of all the gizmos and not based on how user friendly it is or how well it performs.

The PocketGPSWorld "review" is more of an sales advert where they outline all the features
with a big "uhu... gosh... look at all 'em buttons".

No one seem to care that the software takes 30 seconds to load, that the grapics locks up
for 10-20 seconds every now and then and that the routing is very strange, because
look at all 'em buttons.

I'm sorry Alturion and ccsnet if it looks like I'm out to just **** on your parade.
But this software isn't the killer app it's pointed out to be, not even with US maps.
That said... It could be a killer app. With the addition of US maps they'll also have
the pressure from the US customers to improve the software.
Like I sad earlier... performance, interface and sdk... then it'll be a "Destinator Killer"

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Old 07-16-2005, 05:31 PM   #49
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It could be a killer app. With the addition of US maps they'll also have
the pressure from the US customers to improve the software.
Like I sad earlier... performance, interface and sdk... then it'll be a "Destinator Killer" /M

Thats pretty much where I am coming from... if they do read this and do take up an opertunity to get help from the 'comunity' my email will have suceded.

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Old 07-18-2005, 04:29 PM   #50
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Since I've been *****ing most of the time I figured I'd praise it a bit when it's deserved.
I tried it in traffic for the first time the other day and I was really surprised how well the voice commands worked.
Immidiatly after you made the turn she said "follow this road for xxx miles, then turn right" so you instantly new wich lane you needed to be in.
Destinator gets quite annoying with it's fixed 3km, 500m, 200m, turn now warnings.
Alturion seemed much more "relaxed" and yet more informative.

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Old 07-18-2005, 04:43 PM   #51
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Since I've been *****ing most of the time I figured I'd praise it a bit when it's deserved.
I tried it in traffic for the first time the other day and I was really surprised how well the voice commands worked.
Immidiatly after you made the turn she said "follow this road for xxx miles, then turn right" so you instantly new wich lane you needed to be in.
Destinator gets quite annoying with it's fixed 3km, 500m, 200m, turn now warnings.
Alturion seemed much more "relaxed" and yet more informative.

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Maximus - I'm trying to learn VB at the mo as I want to make an iterface ( if I ever get time )... do you think its doable with the current SDK ? Just the basics really..

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Normally I'd say no... but since it's you asking, I'll say: let me have a look

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The biggest problem I saee with the SDK is the lack of a useful search function. The SDK implementation will return only 1 result and a partial match does not include lat and long; without these, you cannot add the lcoation as a waypoint so you can't route with it. What you need is either to be able to click on the map and get that as a geographical position, or have the SDK return a list of possible locations and allow you to choose one of these. Neither is possible in the current SDK.

Also, there is no call-back which would tell you that it is about to announce a direction. This is necessary to allow you to mute the MP3 playback.

I think the screen-shots shown earlier in this thread are from the PPC version, despite landscape mode. You can use some PPCs landscape now. the PC version looks quite different - and not at all touchscreen-friendly IMO.

I'm waiting (for 10 days now) for a response from Alturioin support on these questions.

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The biggest problem I saee with the SDK is the lack of a useful search function. The SDK implementation will return only 1 result and a partial match does not include lat and long; without these, you cannot add the lcoation as a waypoint so you can't route with it. What you need is either to be able to click on the map and get that as a geographical position, or have the SDK return a list of possible locations and allow you to choose one of these. Neither is possible in the current SDK.

Also, there is no call-back which would tell you that it is about to announce a direction. This is necessary to allow you to mute the MP3 playback.

I think the screen-shots shown earlier in this thread are from the PPC version, despite landscape mode. You can use some PPCs landscape now. the PC version looks quite different - and not at all touchscreen-friendly IMO.

I'm waiting (for 10 days now) for a response from Alturioin support on these questions.

Mike.

Just for the record I've had no response either to my mail....

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I'm waiting (for 10 days now) for a response from Alturioin support on these questions.

Mike.

Quote: Originally Posted by ccsnet
Just for the record I've had no response either to my mail....

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Ah, so it *IS* the new Destinator then!!
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Ah, so it *IS* the new Destinator then!!

Hahaha.... now you're just evil

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Hahaha.... now you're just evil

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I have to confess.... I giggled too.

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well he does have a good point
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Well, you can get it to embedd and hide all the menues.
But since you can't (like Mike said) get information about cities/streets without the user entering them manually and then check if it's valid or not the whole frontend/embedding idea is useless (more or less anyway).

I still think the guy who wrote the routing part of the software was drunk when he did it.
A 950km drive that I know takes about 11-12 hours to do (with lunch stop) is claimed to take 16 hours, even though it follows the same route I normally drive.

A short 45km drive from where I live to another city that usually takes around 45 minutes to drive gave me all sorts of options.
Worst one was a 85km drive through another large city, total time 2 hours 50 minutes.
Another option was a 1 hour drive using back roads.
No matter what options I selected I couldn't get it to choose the "correct" routing.
But when I selected a waypoint and thereby forcing it to use the correct route it calculated the correct distance and driving time, 45km's and 50 minutes.
This is both the shortest and the fastest route.

In some sections it claims that a couple of km's would take 45 minutes to drive, even though it's got a speed limit of min. 60mph (100km/h),
so I really don't know what kind of info they got.

Right now it's a dead end, it's not good enough as is ( IMHO ) to buy and without buying it I wont get access to the updates that hopefully would prove it worth actually buying.

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Thanks for the updates. I managed to get it to embed within VB6 from your source code and cured the programming crashing on exiting - but i couldn't manage to stop vb6 from crashing when adding a destination using the sdk.

I have also emailed alturion and filled in the beta registration but have not got anywhere. I don't think they see the potential they could have here.

Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. Back to Destinator
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