[BETA] GPSSecure - Page 3

xBrady · 03-23-2005, 02:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by egeekial

I'd be very interested in beta testing...

For those of us who don't have GPRS, is there any chance you could make it upload data when connected to a random AP?

I have a link to a program called WINC in the original post. If you have that it will connect to any open APs.

egeekial · 03-23-2005, 02:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by xBrady

I have a link to a program called WINC in the original post. If you have that it will connect to any open APs.

Whoops... I thought i skimmed more thoroughly than that.

psuter · 03-23-2005, 03:36 AM

your app sounds very interesting. now here is a thaught:
if you could implement the POP3 thing (sending your position log out through smtp and then download it form POP3 on the local client) you would enable a nice thing for many people here in europe (and probably in other parts of the world as well) cause at least we here in switzerland can get an orange contract and add a 4$ extra to our plan which allows us to send and receive emails freely (through orange smtp / pop3 servers). so at the end one could have your app sending out the logs all times through a gprs connected cellphone using that orange plan and not pay any more than about 4$ a month for that! (at least for switzerland, there is a new plan called orange click, which costs no monthly fee and allowes you to add those extras so it really is only 4$ a month we pay for that.. ) i thought there where similiar things from other phone companies in other countries in europe.

one need feature would be to take a snapshot of an attached webcam and send this too

but now i start requesting features before a first release is out there, so i stop that now

another good thing about the pop3 feature would be, that i could for example post to a php script i write myself and have it use the data rather than a client which i might not have access to during vacation. or if the picture thing was included, i could moblog the whole thing and have a driving agenda with pictures .. totally useless i guess but funny

one last question. will it be open source or closed soure?

cheers
pascal

xBrady · 03-23-2005, 03:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by psuter

your app sounds very interesting. now here is a thaught:
if you could implement the POP3 thing (sending your position log out through smtp and then download it form POP3 on the local client) you would enable a nice thing for many people here in europe (and probably in other parts of the world as well) cause at least we here in switzerland can get an orange contract and add a 4$ extra to our plan which allows us to send and receive emails freely (through orange smtp / pop3 servers). so at the end one could have your app sending out the logs all times through a gprs connected cellphone using that orange plan and not pay any more than about 4$ a month for that! (at least for switzerland, there is a new plan called orange click, which costs no monthly fee and allowes you to add those extras so it really is only 4$ a month we pay for that.. ) i thought there where similiar things from other phone companies in other countries in europe.

I'll look into doing the email thing.

Quote: Originally Posted by psuter

one need feature would be to take a snapshot of an attached webcam and send this too

but now i start requesting features before a first release is out there, so i stop that now

I don't have a webcam so I probably wouldn't implement this any time soon. I am completely open to any suggestions, keep them coming

Quote: Originally Posted by psuter

another good thing about the pop3 feature would be, that i could for example post to a php script i write myself and have it use the data rather than a client which i might not have access to during vacation. or if the picture thing was included, i could moblog the whole thing and have a driving agenda with pictures .. totally useless i guess but funny

I will definitely need to set something up so it can interact with stuff you guys set up on the web.

Quote: Originally Posted by psuter

one last question. will it be open source or closed soure?

For now it is going to be closed source (at least in the beginning while I get everything sorted and at least a base for the thing.) but who knows what the future will hold. Plus this would require that I comment my code

It is pretty clean just not commented.
Thanks for the suggestions, I will definitely consider anything you throw at me.

xBrady · 03-23-2005, 04:20 AM

Was just thinking, I could probably build a SMTP/POP3 addition to the server app I have. If that would save you UK guys money I'll definitely do it.
As far as what will be sent out via SMTP: Do you want it to sent your coordinates and other information on an interval, or do you want a button that will send our your current position, or do you want a button that will send the whole log file? Or all three

psuter · 03-23-2005, 04:29 AM

everything

no seriously, sending out the log file on a customizeable interval would be the most important thing as far as saving money and having a constant log file transmission is concerned

..

cheers
pascal

TonyM · 03-23-2005, 06:28 AM

As Pascal says sending on a (configurable) interval would be good, that way you could define your own costs (if there are any for the method you choose) by sending every 6 hours/1 hour/5 mins as necessary.

I also quite like the idea of the webcam snaphot being logged/sent too, if it would help I can send you a webcam that I have lying around, just PM me your address and it's yours, it's not a great webcam (an old logitech one), but it will do the job and you can still get drivers if needed (although XP just recognises it straight away I think).

As I said in my PM I should be able to get this in and running at some point over the weekend.

Thanks
Tony

xBrady · 03-23-2005, 10:23 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by psuter

everything

no seriously, sending out the log file on a customizeable interval would be the most important thing as far as saving money and having a constant log file transmission is concerned

..

cheers
pascal

Alright, sounds good. You know it is already sending the log file via TCP already right

Just making sure that you meant sending it via SMTP. I have school and work all day today so I won't be home till midnight tonight but I'll see if I can remote desktop into my home computer at work and work on it that way.

Quote: Originally Posted by psuter

As Pascal says sending on a (configurable) interval would be good, that way you could define your own costs (if there are any for the method you choose) by sending every 6 hours/1 hour/5 mins as necessary.

I also quite like the idea of the webcam snaphot being logged/sent too, if it would help I can send you a webcam that I have lying around, just PM me your address and it's yours, it's not a great webcam (an old logitech one), but it will do the job and you can still get drivers if needed (although XP just recognises it straight away I think).

As I said in my PM I should be able to get this in and running at some point over the weekend.

Thanks
Tony

Thanks for offering Tony

psuter · 03-23-2005, 10:44 AM

Quote:

You know it is already sending the log file via TCP already right Just making sure that you meant sending it via SMTP.

yup i got that

but for the gprs traffic to be free it must go to a server from orange themselves, so using their smtp server to send it out by email is the only way to get it home for free

so i need it as an email sent through smtp.

xBrady · 03-23-2005, 02:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by psuter

yup i got that

but for the gprs traffic to be free it must go to a server from orange themselves, so using their smtp server to send it out by email is the only way to get it home for free

so i need it as an email sent through smtp.

Gotcha

techy101 · 03-23-2005, 04:49 PM

Hey, when I hit "connect" I get a cascade of windows saying "Input string was not in a correct format" and they never stop. Just keep on piling up on top of themselves. It does manage to see a signal, cuz it shows me the signal strength. but then it just keeps on doing this. Here is a pic. Am I just being stupid and doing something wrong here? BTW, I am using a Holux GR-211x GPS mouse.

And secondly, a feature request. What about having the option (at least for those of us here in the US) to be able to use either the mapquest map, or the Terraserver. Like having two different buttons or something of the sort. Just a thought

Thanks

xBrady · 03-23-2005, 09:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by techy101

Hey, when I hit "connect" I get a cascade of windows saying "Input string was not in a correct format" and they never stop. Just keep on piling up on top of themselves. It does manage to see a signal, cuz it shows me the signal strength. but then it just keeps on doing this. Here is a pic. Am I just being stupid and doing something wrong here? BTW, I am using a Holux GR-211x GPS mouse.

And secondly, a feature request. What about having the option (at least for those of us here in the US) to be able to use either the mapquest map, or the Terraserver. Like having two different buttons or something of the sort. Just a thought

Thanks

Thanks for the screenshot. That gave me all the information I need. The problem is that your GPS isn't inputing the NMEA sentance for the satellite according to protocal. As you see in the box above it isn't deliminating each part with a comma. It appears that it is inputing all of the other sentances as it should but not that one. I'll build in a work around for that and upload a new version tomorrow.
Ya, I'll give the option for the US terra server maps or the other.

techy101 · 03-23-2005, 09:45 PM

Thanks a ton for the quick fix, and reply

aoLhaTer · 03-24-2005, 12:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by xBrady

Use WINC to automatically connect you to access points as you pass them

Not neccessary to get that program
Windows XP has a builtin setting for connecting to any available network

Right click the wireless network connection, go to properties
Go to the wireless network tab and click advanced. Should be a checkbox

So does this program work with another GPS program open?
Id think youd need a com port splitter to do it

xBrady · 03-24-2005, 02:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by aoLhaTer

Not neccessary to get that program
Windows XP has a builtin setting for connecting to any available network

Right click the wireless network connection, go to properties
Go to the wireless network tab and click advanced. Should be a checkbox

So does this program work with another GPS program open?
Id think youd need a com port splitter to do it

Ah, thanks for the heads up about the wireless, I'll update my original post.
Ya, this is going to need a com port splitter. There is a whole list of them off of the link in the original post.
I am going to hopefully make a mapmonkey plugin some time in the near future so you won't need the splitter with that.