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Old 07-02-2009, 09:55 AM   #16
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Nice.... I like cooperation . And Dejan's proven himself as someone who can get the job done! I looking forward to seeing how this develops, I may even have to get one of these in right away so I can start playing with. I just wish the Valentine 1 wasn't $400, it is a nice radar though. I guess you get what you pay for.

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Old 07-02-2009, 11:13 AM   #17
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Well Dejan, if you decide to develop a plugin and need anything, let me know. I could even test it out for you if you needed. I can install centrafuse and the plugin on my laptop for testing.
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Old 07-11-2009, 06:00 AM   #18
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Status Report:

New website design is up. Found the last work didnt work in IE so I have actually tested it in other browsers now. Let me know what you think of the layout/design.

As for the hardware, should be receiving my first one end of next week to start of week after.

Still finishing up the software side of things.

Hope to hear more from plugin developers once the hardware is out and people using it. No word yet on one being made before then.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:20 AM   #19
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CityFan86........ I love what you've done...... awesome work.

I am about to purchase 3 V1's for my cars and have Car PC's in them all so the integration into CF would be the one thing that would make me purchase.

One question I have is that I've previously made serial to V1 adaptors for an old version of similar software....... do you think that would work with your software ?

I can post a diagram that I followed if it would help. I'd be more than happy to pay you for your software if you think my current hardware would work OK. If not then I'll happily purchase some of your hardware once you've got the CF plugins sorted.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:48 AM   #20
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CityFan86........ I love what you've done...... awesome work.

I am about to purchase 3 V1's for my cars and have Car PC's in them all so the integration into CF would be the one thing that would make me purchase.

One question I have is that I've previously made serial to V1 adaptors for an old version of similar software....... do you think that would work with your software ?

I can post a diagram that I followed if it would help. I'd be more than happy to pay you for your software if you think my current hardware would work OK. If not then I'll happily purchase some of your hardware once you've got the CF plugins sorted.


No other hardware will work with my Software (or any software using my protocol). This is due to the way I made the hardware.

As for frontend integration: I have said it before, I have no plans on creating software for different frontends. There are too many developers out their that have done this before and that would do a much better job than I. I have released the protocol for the V1CS and am willing to provide any answers to any questions regarding it. I expect and hope that frontend software will appear as soon as the hardware is out there. I will be selling the first few hardware pieces to people who will beta test it and/or develop software for it.


DISCLAIMER: The text below is how I am aware all other hardware works. If im wrong, im wrong, though I dont believe I am.

All other hardware acts like the V1 protocol is already in pc accepted serial format, and simply converts the TTL voltages (0v & 5v) to RS232 voltages (12v & -12V). The fact is the V1 protocol is not already in a serial protocol format, and the hardware out their simply uses a RS232 baud rate that is in sync with the V1 baudrate and thus picks up the data. The baud rate is too fast though for the V1 data so the data sent also include junk bits. So every byte transmitted includes 1 bit of V1 data and 7 bits of junk.
Ex. JJJ0JJJJ JJJ1JJJJ JJJ1JJJJ JJJ0JJJJ
Each "J" is a junk bit and the 0's and 1's are the actual V1 bits. There is no baud rate that could just pick up the 1's and 0's. This method is accurate in the sense that the V1 data is read. Its just not reading it using the correct protocol.

My method is what I consider the correct way to do it. I utilize a microchip that reads the V1 data in the exact method it was intended to be read (right data rate etc). I read the V1 data bit by bit at the correct baud rate. Upon reading the data I output it at the correct PC RS232 baud rate in a new cleaner format that I came up with. Was this last step needed? No. But seeing as I was transmitting the data to the PC after I read it from the V1, I figured I might as well transmit it in what I thought would be a better format.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:52 AM   #21
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That's good enough for me mate

I'll talk to Dejan and see what the story is with getting a CF plugin sorted and then maybe I'll talk to you about a deal for 3 x hardware interfaces
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Sounds good

FYI, I should be receiving my first hardware piece tomorrow (assembled and ready to test). Upon me testing it the first batch will be kicked into production and should be here in 2-3 weeks. I just hope I designed tomorrows test unit correctly and that it works (and fits into the case I have planned). Fingers crossed.
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Sounds good......... I'm looking forward to your progress.
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I am glad someone else has picked up this project and run with it. I would very much like this type of integration with the V1. However, I would like to encourage you to release the source code for the software. There have been other projects like this and when the devs get tired of it they move on taking their code with them to leave those who invested the time and money in the project high and dry. I've tried contacting those people to get the code only to be ignored. I've had this happen several times and it makes me reluctant to purchase hardware when the software is controlled by one person. I understand the need to protect your investment and time. Having the software open source, however, does take the burden of support off your shoulders. Besides, if I read correctly, your hardware is microcontroller based and thus needs firmware. So your software is useless without your hardware anyways.

I hope someone will develop RR support for this as well.

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Currently I don't see the need release the source code for my software package. The software is not what I am selling, the hardware is. So it would not hurt me by releasing the source code, but I have already published the protocol and that is all anyone needs to develop their own software. So I may release the code as a reference, I may not.

As for the firmware code, I will not be releasing this or the schematic for my hardware. How can I when I am trying to sell this product? If the day comes when I no longer support this, well who knows. I guess its like anything you buy right. The company could always cease and leave you high and dry. I can say that I have no plans on bailing though. I have found a manufacturer that is building and assembling this hardware. So the work from my end to get new batches of hardware is simply an email and a payment. As these sell I will send off for a new batch to keep my stock up.

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Good news on the hardware. Received the first one today and it passed its initial testing. There appears to be no problems with the hardware. That means I will pass the ok on to the manufacturer in the next day and I should receive the first batch of 25 in the next 2-3 weeks.
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You're right, you'd be silly to release the schematic and the firmware. I was talking more about the software side. If you decide to abandon the project, then those that have the hardware would have the source to continue development and/or bug fixes to continue using the hardware you built.

With that said, I'll be the first in line to buy one of these once everything is working.

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Just wanted to let you all know I hope to be starting to sell these very shortly. I am expecting the 25 units to be delivered today. The enclosures and other parts are being delivered by weekend and I will be assembling and testing all 25 in the next week. Before I sell any to people though I will be testing it for a few days of continuous use in my car, as well as providing one or two to some people to test. I want to ensure it is a solid device before selling it to the mass of people.

The website has also been updated to include screenshots of the latest software version.

If you would like to send me an email to sales@v1connect.com I will get a list going and will notify you when you can order.
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Sample C# code to read the V1CS Protocol. Hopefully this will help people get started on plugins.

http://forums.v1connect.com/smf/index.php?topic=4.0
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Hi CityFan86,

Is possible build some V1 simulator that can developers test and make plugins? Like one board which simulate all V1 functions?

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