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11-09-2006, 09:28 AM
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out of curiosity.... did you read the thread?
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11-09-2006, 04:36 PM
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i ve read everything but nobody knows price, everybody just talking about contact them. and i am inresting is anybody contact them and maybe knows price or place where to buy this.
thanks
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11-09-2006, 04:39 PM
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they never even answered me... my guess is there more looking to sell to oem's, not end consumers....
I don't think it's ever even been varified that this can even be done with a film.... I'm still thinking this may be a process that is done while the glass is manufactured....
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11-10-2006, 03:07 AM
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i was talking with dealer in moskow and he said that it will be new one film in about 6 month and it will be better than previous...and i asked him to buy film that was produced before and he said that all film is sold....and i can try to find old one somewhere...
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11-16-2006, 01:09 AM
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Their is a window tint that does this!
I was watching Pimp My Ride and he took a window tint film, added it to plexi glass and when an electrical current was added.....it turned to a frost color. I am searching for the product myself. I have even emailed the production company for the show....If I get the info I will repost.
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02-21-2007, 09:34 AM
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any news?
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03-07-2007, 11:32 PM
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The variable tint effect for windows is created by three different technologies, although all of these methods do involve sandwiching something between two layers of glass or plastic plating, the insides of which have some sort of clear conductive coating/layer. (this may allow for some sort of film, but it would probably be rather thick)
PLCD which is basically like microscopic miniblinds, similar to how an LCD display works. These are either completely dark or completely clear. They require constant electricity to remain clear
SPD (suspended particle devices) are similar to the LCDs, only they can vary the amount of tint. The more electricity is put through the particles, the more transparent the glass gets.
Electrochromic glass sandwhiches different materials between the panes of glass or plastic, and allows the window to change color or how opaque they are. Depending on the type of material used, these windows can either reflect or absorb light, and unlike the other two types, can keep their current state without requiring additional electricity. Running a current through the window changes its color or opacity, but is not required to maintain the color or opacity.
Here's a useful link with more info:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/smart-window2.htm
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03-07-2007, 11:42 PM
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The variable tint effect for windows is created by three different technologies, although all of these methods do involve sandwiching something between two layers of glass or plastic plating, the insides of which have some sort of clear conductive coating/layer. (this may allow for some sort of film, but it would probably be rather thick)
PLCD which is basically like microscopic miniblinds, similar to how an LCD display works. These are either completely dark or completely clear. They require constant electricity to remain clear
SPD (suspended particle devices) are similar to the LCDs, only they can vary the amount of tint. The more electricity is put through the particles, the more transparent the glass gets.
Electrochromic glass sandwhiches different materials between the panes of glass or plastic, and allows the window to change color or how opaque they are. Depending on the type of material used, these windows can either reflect or absorb light, and unlike the other two types, can keep their current state without requiring additional electricity. Running a current through the window changes its color or opacity, but is not required to maintain the color or opacity.
Here's a useful link with more info:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/smart-window2.htm
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03-10-2007, 12:24 AM
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08-27-2007, 04:13 PM
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This could happen!
Having studied Electronics for a while and done some research, I can say almost without a doubt this is possible...and affordable.
Anyone else with any knowledge care to help with a project on this?
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08-27-2007, 04:40 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sadman2 
Having studied Electronics for a while and done some research, I can say almost without a doubt this is possible...and affordable.
Anyone else with any knowledge care to help with a project on this?
Well you just need to put a polarizing crystal goo inside of 2 planes of glass. I doubt you could get it into a screen/film as of now.
However I think this, combined with the "flexible OLED paper" will eventually lead to flexible polarized crystal, meaning this could be applied as easily as tint with 3 wires running down.
To visualize what I am saying, have you ever taken 2 sheets of polarized film and looked through them both at the same time? Then rotate one of the films and the image through the films will get darker and darker and darker, and then no visible light can pass through, then it will get brighter and brighter and brighter until almost all visible light will get through (will still be darker of course), and then risne wash repeat.
So basically you will need to get 1 polorized sheet fixed permanently. The other sheet will need to be able to polarize differently depending on the voltage or current going throught it. Sort of like an LCD.  That is how this works.
Also called "Smart Glass" I believe.
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08-27-2007, 05:03 PM
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Heres more on the subject thanks to "howstuffworks.com"
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To create an LCD, you take two pieces of polarized glass. A special polymer that creates microscopic grooves in the surface is rubbed on the side of the glass that does not have the polarizing film on it. The grooves must be in the same direction as the polarizing film. You then add a coating of nematic liquid crystals to one of the filters. The grooves will cause the first layer of molecules to align with the filter's orientation. Then add the second piece of glass with the polarizing film at a right angle to the first piece. Each successive layer of TN molecules will gradually twist until the uppermost layer is at a 90-degree angle to the bottom, matching the polarized glass filters.
As light strikes the first filter, it is polarized. The molecules in each layer then guide the light they receive to the next layer. As the light passes through the liquid crystal layers, the molecules also change the light's plane of vibration to match their own angle. When the light reaches the far side of the liquid crystal substance, it vibrates at the same angle as the final layer of molecules. If the final layer is matched up with the second polarized glass filter, then the light will pass through.
If we apply an electric charge to liquid crystal molecules, they untwist. When they straighten out, they change the angle of the light passing through them so that it no longer matches the angle of the top polarizing filter. Consequently, no light can pass through that area of the LCD, which makes that area darker than the surrounding areas.
Building a simple LCD is easier than you think. Your start with the sandwich of glass and liquid crystals described above and add two transparent electrodes to it. For example, imagine that you want to create the simplest possible LCD with just a single rectangular electrode on it. The layers would look like this:
the different layers in an lcd
The LCD needed to do this job is very basic. It has a mirror (A) in back, which makes it reflective. Then, we add a piece of glass (B) with a polarizing film on the bottom side, and a common electrode plane (C) made of indium-tin oxide on top. A common electrode plane covers the entire area of the LCD. Above that is the layer of liquid crystal substance (D). Next comes another piece of glass (E) with an electrode in the shape of the rectangle on the bottom and, on top, another polarizing film (F), at a right angle to the first one.
The electrode is hooked up to a power source like a battery. When there is no current, light entering through the front of the LCD will simply hit the mirror and bounce right back out. But when the battery supplies current to the electrodes, the liquid crystals between the common-plane electrode and the electrode shaped like a rectangle untwist and block the light in that region from passing through. That makes the LCD show the rectangle as a black area.
So for this application we would just need 1 pixel so the cost would be pretty low I would think.We dont need to get really tiny sqaures in there. Of course you would just leave out the mirror. I think that would allow light to pass all the way through.
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09-07-2007, 06:58 AM
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Sounds like a good idea. I am just wondering about the environment that you would need to manufacture something like this. Any dust particles, that deposit on the glass while applying the different layers, will probably show up afterwards....
Also, where would you get liquid crystals and clear electrodes from? I wouldn't know a place for that.
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10-10-2007, 03:43 AM
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car window film
Can any one suggest the address of film makers/suppliers who can supply these films which become opaque and clear on supply of some electrical power to it
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10-10-2007, 09:48 PM
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doesnt maybach or some major expensive car place have something that goes to black when its activated?
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