Renault "Tuner List" Head Unit/CD changer hacking - Controls - Page 41

cupax · 08-17-2006, 07:49 AM

Just a simple question:
Would it be possible to connect an Ipod to the head unit, if you own the original CD Charger?

Foldesa · 08-17-2006, 07:59 AM

Yes, it is possible.

You have 2 ways to do this.

1., Fm modulator. I think this one has poor sound quality.

2., You can connect it through the changer port of the head unit, but then you have to make a switch witch selects Ipod or changer. Like the ones on the forum. If you choose to do this, then you have to emulate the cahnger's communication and you will require an analog-to-SPDIF converter. Like the one I'm worikng on.

Vicne · 08-17-2006, 01:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Foldesa

2., You can connect it through the changer port of the head unit, but then you have to make a switch witch selects Ipod or changer. Like the ones on the forum. If you choose to do this, then you have to emulate the cahnger's communication

Not necessarily. The advantage of owning a CD Changer is that you can keep the control wires connected to the changer and only switch the spdif wires between actual CDC and external source.
I used this setup for more than one year and it works perfectly. Just load a few CDs into the CD Changer and let them play to please the head unit, but feed it with another sound. The only drawback is that every 60-80 minutes, when the CDC skips to the next CD, the sound mutes for a few seconds. Not a big deal if you ask me...

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and you will require an analog-to-SPDIF converter. Like the one I'm worikng on.

Yes, you can't avoid that unless you have a device with spdif-out...

Bichito · 08-24-2006, 10:39 AM

Hello All,

I'm new here, I need some help but first I need to congratulate the users like you guys who make an excellent work testing new ideas.

I just install a Alpine IVA W200 unit on my Megane 2 , with Bluetooth connection and Rear Cam.

I'm trying to make the Steering Remote control interface using the PAC SWI-ALP.

I need if somebody knows the functions on the Yellow connector that comes from the Display.

Pin 1 DTA
Pin 2 CLK
Pin 3 MRO
Pin 4 Not Used
Pin 5 Data In Radio Info
Pin 6 Ground

I need what the hell the first 3 pins does.

Maybe Data , Clock and Remote.

I really appreciate any help.

Thanks

Daniel

markob · 08-25-2006, 11:27 AM

I have vdo probably dc259 car stereo in renault megane 2000 y.
So what i need,i need to open aux IN on the radio,i need to connect MP3 player(ipod,w800i)whatever source on the AUX IN,so does enyone have a shemtaci diagram,or how to conect pins for the signal for the AUX ON on the radio.
Please help me.

I just dont know,whats the theme in this thread with this spdif/usb line in,why do you make this,and a lot word for atmels and other procesors???
Dont say that for line in/AUX IN i need this stuff,becouse as i know it the AUX-IN is working becouse its originaly for weksler,probably you need a resistor for 2 pins that radio or head unit has information that something is conected on the aux -in.

Unless you makeing a controls,for controling ipod trough a steering wheels keys.

Does somebody know if i replace originaly head unit with new,how can i resolve problem with steering wheel keys,that i can control a new head unit with this keys?
Please help me

FroMage · 08-25-2006, 11:36 AM

I seem to remember some difference between stock head units, some of them accepting an AUX input, and all of them accepting SPDIF for a CD changer. I honestly don't know which head units have AUX inputs, but I think mine doesn't. Here people are explaining how to fake a CD changer to activate the SPDIF input, and more recently also how to makde SPDIF from an analog line source.
If you have an AUX input you don't have to worry, but you won't have steering wheel controls like next/prev enabled with AUX (which we should get via the CD changer interface)

cupax · 08-25-2006, 12:28 PM

Hello Guys.

Congratulations on all your development!
But to make the things right and to spice up this project here is an idea: What about to add an USB to the adapter you are building? In this way, you could connect any MP3 player and use the stearing wheel comands to control the playback.

Furthermore, you could recharge the player via USB.

markob · 08-27-2006, 04:14 PM

Hello,could someony please help me.

I got 22DC259/62T radio in megane 2000y.
I only want to conect mp3 player(ipod or else)on this original radio.
If im not wrong,i need to connect RCA cable to blue conector,so could someone tells me what pins are audio and what else do i need that the radio will play trough AUX -IN input an mp3 sounds from a MP3 player?

How do i enable AUX-IN on the radio?
So is that all (enable aux-in and conect cable to blue conector)?

Please help me(pictures)you can write in FRANCH i will translate it.

This is my conector

Bonjour, a pu someony svp m'aider.
J'ai obtenu la radio 22DC259/62T dans le megane 2000y.
Je veux seulement au player(ipod ou à l'else)on du conect mp3 cette radio originale.
Si pas le mal im, je doit relier le câble de RCA au conector bleu, ainsi pourrait quelqu'un me dit quelles goupilles sont audio et quoi encore j'ont besoin que la radio jouera la cuvette AUX. - est-ce que DANS l'entrée un mp3 retentit d'un joueur MP3 ?

Comment est-ce que je permets l'AUXINE sur la radio ? Est-ce que ce tout (permettez l'auxine et le câble de conect est ainsi au conector bleu) ?
Svp le me(pictures)you d'aide peut écrire dans FRANCH que je le traduirai. C'est mon conector

Putput · 08-28-2006, 05:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by markob

Hello,could someony please help me.

I got 22DC259/62T radio in megane 2000y.
I only want to conect mp3 player(ipod or else)on this original radio.
If im not wrong,i need to connect RCA cable to blue conector,so could someone tells me what pins are audio and what else do i need that the radio will play trough AUX -IN input an mp3 sounds from a MP3 player?

How do i enable AUX-IN on the radio?
So is that all (enable aux-in and conect cable to blue conector)?

Please help me(pictures)you can write in FRANCH i will translate it.

This is my conector

Bonjour, a pu someony svp m'aider.
J'ai obtenu la radio 22DC259/62T dans le megane 2000y.
Je veux seulement au player(ipod ou à l'else)on du conect mp3 cette radio originale.
Si pas le mal im, je doit relier le câble de RCA au conector bleu, ainsi pourrait quelqu'un me dit quelles goupilles sont audio et quoi encore j'ont besoin que la radio jouera la cuvette AUX. - est-ce que DANS l'entrée un mp3 retentit d'un joueur MP3 ?

Comment est-ce que je permets l'AUXINE sur la radio ? Est-ce que ce tout (permettez l'auxine et le câble de conect est ainsi au conector bleu) ?
Svp le me(pictures)you d'aide peut écrire dans FRANCH que je le traduirai. C'est mon conector

Hello Marcob,
Look in this post, I'm afraid that for your type of radio things are no so simple

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So is that all (enable aux-in and conect cable to blue conector)?

=> This is not the case, the Blue Connector is used for the CD changer and can only be enabled with a serial interface by means of a microprocessor solution or serial port from a PC. And the audio input is SPDIF so you will need a SPDIF converter as well. Look further in this thread and you'll see that there are other people working on a solution for your problem.

Regards,
Putput

markob · 08-28-2006, 05:41 AM

TNX i see it now whats the problem,i got tuner list and this head unit doesnt have AUX -IN.
And from what i read,i see that this interface is in progres and its not finished for amater users like me.

Does any body hav the interface for tuner list thats work?
Why do i need this interface,that the radio thinks that have cd changer connected on blue conector?

Maybee im interesed for car pc,but i see that there is no interface to control trough steering wheel controls,too,so maybe is best to buy new carradio.

But if i had a update list or cd radio younger than 2002,than i can normaly enable aux in ant i need just a cable to connect an outside mp3 player?

Putput · 08-28-2006, 10:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by markob

TNX i see it now whats the problem,i got tuner list and this head unit doesnt have AUX -IN.
And from what i read,i see that this interface is in progres and its not finished for amater users like me.

=> There is a ready made solution, search for Connects2 interface for Renault on http://www.connects2.com.

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Does any body hav the interface for tuner list thats work?
Why do i need this interface,that the radio thinks that have cd changer connected on blue conector?

=> Correct, the interface is constructed to communicate with a CD changer, so that the HU can control the CD changer to pause, play, next track ... If you are planning to install a car PC you could use the steering wheel controls to control your mediaplayer, look at Vicne's SourceForge pages.

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Maybee im interesed for car pc,but i see that there is no interface to control trough steering wheel controls,too,so maybe is best to buy new carradio.

=> See previous answer.

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But if i had a update list or cd radio younger than 2002,than i can normaly enable aux in ant i need just a cable to connect an outside mp3 player?

=> True, I have an Update List HU and I use the AUX input that is directly connected to the soundcard of my car PC. But I already bought the components to build an interface between my car PC and the CD changer interface, in this way I can use the steering wheel controls in my PC's software. This gives me a lot more options then just using the AUX input.

markob · 08-28-2006, 10:37 AM

So,only option than is car pc.
Thanx for your answers,but could you write what i need to control PC trough a steering whell control and listen audio from PC on HU tuner list?

I need normal PC with sound card,than i need what adapter to conect PC sound with HU tuner list aux-in?

And what interface to control pc trough controls on steering wheel?That link that you gave me,ok i can download this program but what to do nex,and how to conect PC with head unit and steering controls with cables(hardware).

Why dont someone make a post and al the nesesery thigs put in one post with pictures.I belive that to you and others who are developers of this stuff can do this interface and other to work,but 80% of users on this forum dont know what to do when you get the link,some stuf there,search on this site,search on that site this is very confusing.
I read all the forum,posts form vince spdif v2 but still dont get it.
thanks anyway for your trouble.

Vicne · 08-28-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by markob

So,only option than is car pc.
Thanx for your answers,but could you write what i need to control PC trough a steering whell control and listen audio from PC on HU tuner list?

I need normal PC with sound card,than i need what adapter to conect PC sound with HU tuner list aux-in?

No, not a "normal" PC : for simplicity, you need a PC with a coaxial SPDIF output (on the motherboard or on a soundblaster)

If you can find one, then you should probably take a look at the homepage of the project, but also on the FAQ and hardware pages.

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Why dont someone make a post and al the nesesery thigs put in one post with pictures.I belive that to you and others who are developers of this stuff can do this interface and other to work,but 80% of users on this forum dont know what to do when you get the link,some stuf there,search on this site,search on that site this is very confusing.

Well, I agree that this thread becomes rather long (more than 600 posts) and that it's not easy to find accurate information, but I'm afraid adding one more post of summary would be useless as it would get buried as new posts come in.

The pages given above were written exactly for that purpose.

If you still have questions after reading these pages, don't hesitate to ask.

Best regards,

Vicne.