Renault "Tuner List" Head Unit/CD changer hacking - Controls - Page 53

leola · 07-30-2008, 03:41 AM

Hello,

I have been playing arround with TLCDEmu for a few months on my tuner list scenic 2003. It works perfectly, thank you guys for this. I recently changed car for a 2006 Scenic with an update list HU. I am currently tring to make TLCDEmu work on it without success. I have the SPDIF-desactivated-with-no-volume-control problem.
Before I sell the all hardware on ebay (Lilliput 7' TS, epiaM10000, DIY serial adapter, cables...) has any one found a way to go arround this? I do not want to go through the annoying startup sequence explained earlier here.

leola · 07-31-2008, 03:11 AM

I have done some more testing and when I push the load CD key many times, several times per seconds, increasing the debug level to the max, the SPDIF is activated on and off rapidely until every commands are sent. It looks like a communication problem or even a timing problem.
Since I do not have a CD charger I cannot snif the traffic and compare with the emulator, I do not know what to modify on the code to progress. Maybe I will compare with pic version that is reported to work.
Looks like every one leaved the project or is in vacation.

HenkPeer · 09-29-2008, 02:44 PM

Hi,

Maybe a silly question, but has anyone ever considered or attempted to connect a pc/phone/mp3player with an analog audio output directly to the cars speakers, without runnning it through the hu? There would have to be a switch somewhere on the dashboard to switch between hu input and 'custom aux' input. The only drawback is that the display and steering wheel controls are useless (but the display is useless anyway if you use soft- or hardware emulation on the CD-changer port).
It seems to me that this is a cheap solution for ppl that have a Tunerlist on a post-2000 renault model who want an AUX connection (like myself

)

Any thoughts on this?

derekmatic · 11-28-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Putput

As pippolippi stated in his post, its not suppose to work, Renault HU's uses the Blue Mini ISO connector to connect to a CDC and not an AUX input. Only an 'Update List' HU has a direct AUX input. If you have an Update List HU, look in the document I've attached to this post. It describes how to connect an AUX input to a Update List HU.
Good Luck!

***** DOCUMENT UPDATED *****

hi i have an update list hu and made up my own lead wth the iso connector (green) i am having problems with the hu i can't seem to aux come up on the display i get CURVE come up and other can you help me with this.

thanks

Putput · 12-03-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by derekmatic

hi i have an update list hu and made up my own lead wth the iso connector (green) i am having problems with the hu i can't seem to aux come up on the display i get CURVE come up and other can you help me with this.

thanks

I think you should

from your HU. You need to go into Expert menu settings and enable the AUX input before it can be used. I don't remember how to open the Expert menu and I don't have the car/HU/manual any more so I cannot check this for you.

Success,
Putput

bill8n95 · 01-12-2009, 12:38 PM

Hello to all,
I've read almost whole this thread because I'm interested in building the PIC-based emulator (the original one with PIC16F688), and an analog to SPDIF converter using Wolfson Mictroelectronics WM9707 (http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/.../en/WM9707.pdf) for my Tuner List 22DC278/62B.
First of all I'd like to say congratulations to all for their helpful and worthy work and especially to Ale who worked mostly on PIC-based version.
I also need to say to couple of members that they should be ashamed of publishing: I've made this and I've made that (based on different microprocessors), AFTER the members in the first half of this thread had tried too hard, even without sleeping, to understand what is transmitted in the Tx/Rx lines and to write some code for PC and PIC16F688. They could start a new thread, and not doing this.
Nevermind,....
here is my question:
I can see that:
1) last version of PIC16F688 is v1.7 (post #521)
2) I should solder a XTAL 8MHz to the PIC (because internal oscilator isn't steady enough)
3) set configuration word to 0x30e4
4) change value 117 to 125 (post #576)
5) change some other things (post #711)
6) test some value for OSCTUNE register, starting from 0
7) make the hex file and flash it into the PIC16F688.
The problem is that I know nothing about language C (.h files), but I can understand .asm files very well.
So, can someone translate to me the paragraphs 4 and 5 regarding TLPicEmu.asm file placed into TLPicEmu_V1.7.BoostC.zip ??? Final .asm or .hex file would be great, too!
I'd like Ale to reply, but everyone is wellcome!
P.S. I tried v1.0 and v1.7 as they are in zip files with NO external oscillator and only v1.0 worked, so what should be the value for OSCTUNE for v1.7 ??? I suppose v1.7 would be better!!!
I know it's been two years since v1.7 produced!!!

bill8n95 · 01-13-2009, 08:59 PM

Could anyone post the final, with corrections applied on TLPicEmu v1.7 (that was posted by Ale in post #521), working .asm or .hex file for PIC16F688 ?

Doka · 02-12-2009, 10:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by rafael_clio

I would like to know if someone has any information on the interface between the update list unit and the display. Specially the physical layer. I've read that the interface has changed. Is it CAN nowadays? I want to use it to control and display iPod Information.

Thank you,

Quote: Originally Posted by loud8

Hi everibody.
Some posts ago, i read about sending text data to dashboard lcd..
Sure it can't be done through CDC connector, but i believe it is possible through the connection between the HU and the dashboard lcd itself (because usually the lcd writes radio-data text while listening to a fm radi ostation).
Assuming I have the pinout of the connector (i got a '01 clio) and a pc, how can i send text (i.e. mp3 id3 tags, and so on..) to it? Someone knows??
I think it should be done (if possibile) using a com or a parallel port and some software (like a winamp plugin..)..

any help please??

Thanks

in my car (2006, with Siemens VDO) head unit communicate with display on CAN-bus

sniff this protocol very complex, because HU connect to common CAN-bus.

I seek any info about CAN-protocol transfer text HU-to-LCD

I too seek add-on (update?) by this UART-protocol description: http://tlcdcemu.sourceforge.net/protocol.html for understanding how to CDC sent text tag info to HU.

cs_alpha · 03-20-2009, 10:21 AM

I'm using this solution now with a Carminat Informee II CD navigation unit in a Renault Megane Grand Tour (2009). I don't have a coaxial s/pdif source yet, but the software seems to work with the opto isolated hardware board.

The only problem is that I have to give the Playing command on my PC before i can start skipping songs etc. Also, the Pause/Play button is not recognized by the software.

Anyone else experimented with this combination?

farfary52707 · 05-24-2009, 02:52 AM

i have in dash 6 CDC Changer has digital (SPDIF) output. My HU (Cassetta Player) has digital input (update list). Whenever I switch on the player, I see on the display No CD, and then ERR CD and nothing else and any key work.please help me.

javicas · 08-19-2009, 02:55 PM

Hello every one !!!. I'm an electronic cars entusiast, and I found this forum trough google writting my nick; javicas.
Just now, I'm doing the emulator for the Tner List . So far, in the papers..

, the project work, but I have a coupling of doubts regarding the PIC version (Software). It's working the las version V1.7 ???
Tomorrow more. Regards!!.

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