door popper solenoid installation

i3igmind · 03-10-2006, 04:29 PM

Hi All.,
my car at the Body shop, I’m suppose to get it this weekend, I ask the body shop people to shave the door handles, they are going to do so… but they refused to install the solenoids.
So i am going to do it myself, please if anyone have done this b4 help me...
I'll be connecting the solenoids to my existing alarm system.\
Few question the raised on my mind.

when I start my car and put it in “Drive” I ‘ve to push the break to move the stick right! now the very next time I push the breaks the alarm will automatically lock all the doors. And when I turn the ignition off the alarm will unlock all doors!

1-What will be the best way to install the solenoid and make sure that it’ll not popup the door when I push the breaks or while I am reversing.!

2-On my alarm on button will arm the do and the same button will disarm it… will the door pop in both times.???

3-If the driver side door is open, and I try to lock the doors with the alarm, for some reason all doors will lock but not the driver side, I’ll pop back the lock?!!! But when the door is closed it’ll lock fine… I though it could be the door switch but NO I held that switch with my hand and tried to arm the car but no luck. so i need help with that too

Please guy help me

I did

and nothing is there…… no guides or how-to.
I’ll attach my alarm diagram just incase someone willing to help me

Wiredwrx · 03-10-2006, 06:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by i3igmind

Hi All.,
my car at the Body shop, I’m suppose to get it this weekend, I ask the body shop people to shave the door handles, they are going to do so… but they refused to install the solenoids.
So i am going to do it myself, please if anyone have done this b4 help me...
I'll be connecting the solenoids to my existing alarm system.\
Few question the raised on my mind.

when I start my car and put it in “Drive” I ‘ve to push the break to move the stick right! now the very next time I push the breaks the alarm will automatically lock all the doors. And when I turn the ignition off the alarm will unlock all doors!

1-What will be the best way to install the solenoid and make sure that it’ll not popup the door when I push the breaks or while I am reversing.!

2-On my alarm on button will arm the do and the same button will disarm it… will the door pop in both times.???

3-If the driver side door is open, and I try to lock the doors with the alarm, for some reason all doors will lock but not the driver side, I’ll pop back the lock?!!! But when the door is closed it’ll lock fine… I though it could be the door switch but NO I held that switch with my hand and tried to arm the car but no luck. so i need help with that too

Please guy help me

I did

and nothing is there…… no guides or how-to.
I’ll attach my alarm diagram just incase someone willing to help me

Dude, that alarm is not the right type of alarm for what you want to accomplish for several reasons.

The major issue is that the alarm does not have enough "channels".

The problem with few channels is that when you disarm the alarm, sending the signals to the "poppers" both doors will open. You will have to close both doors before you driver. WIth more channels, you can pop the passenger door seperately.

As for the brake pedal issue, if you connect it properly to the section of the alarm that deal with locking and unlocking your doors, then it will not pop when you hit the brake and lock the doors, cause they will only pop when you UNLOCK the doors. However, when you turn off the car, and it unlocks the locks, both doors will open again.

Going reverse won't do anything cause it doesn't look like anything happens know when you go into reverse.

THis is no simple task. Also, it CAN be done with your alarm, but it will require significant wiring, and perhaps, changing of option on your alarm system with the jumpers or switches, if it has a set. And, you instructions are missing the part abou the locks.

With out all that information, no one can help you.

Again, get a different better alarm, and have someone install the alarm and do the poper connections for you.

Michael

Wiredwrx · 03-10-2006, 06:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Wiredwrx

Dude, that alarm is not the right type of alarm for what you want to accomplish for several reasons.

The major issue is that the alarm does not have enough "channels".

The problem with few channels is that when you disarm the alarm, sending the signals to the "poppers" both doors will open. You will have to close both doors before you driver. WIth more channels, you can pop the passenger door seperately.

As for the brake pedal issue, if you connect it properly to the section of the alarm that deal with locking and unlocking your doors, then it will not pop when you hit the brake and lock the doors, cause they will only pop when you UNLOCK the doors. However, when you turn off the car, and it unlocks the locks, both doors will open again.

Going reverse won't do anything cause it doesn't look like anything happens know when you go into reverse.

THis is no simple task. Also, it CAN be done with your alarm, but it will require significant wiring, and perhaps, changing of option on your alarm system with the jumpers or switches, if it has a set. And, you instructions are missing the part abou the locks.

With out all that information, no one can help you.

Again, get a different better alarm, and have someone install the alarm and do the poper connections for you.

Michael

O.K., I REALLY studied the schematic, and it might be able to be done, but with out more info, it will be hard, and also might cause it to operate in a way you do not want.

You can connect the poppers to the trunk wire (if you are not already using it) and to what appears to be the aux output. I am not sure how those currently work, how to access those channels, and what exactly they output. But, with relays and such, you can hook either of those outputs up to both popers, or each wire individually to each popper, so that you have individual control. Also, using those signals, you won't automatically open the doors when you disarm the alarm, hit the brakes, or shut off the car.

Michael

da1duce · 03-11-2006, 12:45 AM

u got a task ahead of u .. best thing to do is buy a clifford alarm more channels than u can handle and u can program ur alarm from ur pc/ with cliffnet wizzard

i3igmind · 03-11-2006, 03:50 AM

Guys this is really suck my car is shaved now and i don't know what to do

i don't even think that i have the Aux out put, i was looking at the the alarm manual and there was 2 digrams one is the one on top and the other one doesn't have the the AUX out put.
and i really don't have the money to to buy another alarm and install it .....

what are my option other than i'm f*****ked

SickVette · 03-11-2006, 10:12 AM

First...the door open thing is a Honda issue and not the alarm. You will not be able to get easily get around that. You can manually close the the door latch...you should be able to lock the doors with the alarm with the door open then because the car thinks it is closed. I am not sure why you want to arm the alarm with the dor open anyways.

The doors opening should have nothing to do with the doors locking. If the two are tied together then you have installation error. Your Aux output is fine for opening one door. Or it could be used to open both doors with a little extra wiring and a relay or two. You can use the cars door trigger to change the relay so when the doors are closed the driver door opens. Once the drivers door opens the relay changes to allow you to pop the passenger door. Ofcourse you will only be able to open the doors in sequence but it will work. If you want I can draw you a diagram on how to do it.

2Fast · 03-11-2006, 11:00 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by i3igmind

1-What will be the best way to install the solenoid and make sure that it’ll not popup the door when I push the breaks or while I am reversing.!

Do what i did, don't connect the Brake light wire, if it doesn't get the signal, it won't lock the doors.

2Fast · 03-11-2006, 11:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by i3igmind

3-If the driver side door is open, and I try to lock the doors with the alarm, for some reason all doors will lock but not the driver side, I’ll pop back the lock?!!! But when the door is closed it’ll lock fine… I though it could be the door switch but NO I held that switch with my hand and tried to arm the car but no luck. so i need help with that too

The latch mechanism is in the door open position so it wont lock until you close the door, there's no way around it as that's the way most door mechanisms are designed.

2Fast · 03-11-2006, 11:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by i3igmind

2-On my alarm on button will arm the do and the same button will disarm it… will the door pop in both times.

Usually alarms use one wire to lock the doors and another to unlock, you need to wire the solanoids with an in-line diode so they only pop on the unlock signal.

SnyperBob · 03-11-2006, 11:25 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by i3igmind

what are my option other than i'm f*****ked

Have you considered leaving your windows down? That would be the easiest option, just open the doors from the inside. It's a 94 Honda, I don't think you have to worry about anyone messing with it.

i3igmind · 03-11-2006, 11:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by SnyperBob

Have you considered leaving your windows down? That would be the easiest option, just open the doors from the inside. It's a 94 Honda, I don't think you have to worry about anyone messing with it.

I would like to thank all off you for trying to help me.
BUT LOOK AT THIS STUPID FOOL thinks his a55 is funny.

i can even belive you took the effort and time to write this

SnyperBob · 03-11-2006, 11:40 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by i3igmind

BUT LOOK AT THIS STUPID FOOL thinks his a55 is funny.

Please, you were the one that shaved your doors without figuring out ahead of time how you were going to open them. Lol, wewt?

Uh Uh Uh, You didn't say the magic word !

i3igmind · 03-11-2006, 07:50 PM

here are some pictures of my car which i can't access for right now

albysure · 03-11-2006, 08:20 PM

i have solenoids in my car and i can open a door from the aux input. but first...how do you get in the car right now without outside handles??? i got my kit from summit racing. any questions just fire away.

i3igmind · 03-13-2006, 10:05 PM

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