Yes. No offense, but that much appears obvious. I didn't really want to say it because I would be assuming.

Not really fair to have responded with having only that small snippet of context. You had already decided your opinion and response by that point. Am I right?

Anyway, you have that right. I appreciate your eventual response, nontheless.



Waffling? I am not very familiar with that term. I don't want to respond to that because I am not sure I know what it means. Sounds kinda like an insult, though from the context. What am I not being precise about?

Yes it is an international forum. I can only 'hope' that people have enough imagination and experience to insert thier own example, instead of mine. I simply offered an 'example.' One that relates to my current surroundings and experiences.

Really, it is interesting that the two opposing arguments (and only opinion type responses...perhaps that does say something) to this idea have mostly focused on my example. Any coincidence that it is the easiest to dismiss, though it has so very little to do with the overall topic that I will just simply remove it when I am done typing this? I'm curious to see how much removing it breaks the entire idea or changes the responses. Hopefully, it will at least remove the ridiculous and unimaginative focus on it.



That's actually very interesting. I cannot find one example in my posts where I state that the world revolves around America. I actually can find one where someone could have made that assumption, and it is... my example.

BTW, I live in America. Do you believe I owe it to you to research the laws in every country, when much of my concept relies on what facilities I only know we have in America (such as public TV?) I guess I was hoping that if people were interested, they could adapt it to thier own country. Since I am not trying to sell anything, I don't see how I am responsible for creating a complete package that works in every country as delivered. I don't believe anyone from any other country owes it to me to know anything about America. I certainly will not assume you are ignorant if you don't.

Now, your second part has some bite to it. Completely my fault for not clarifying that. Your assumption here is clearly logical. My point wasn't that I am the only one that knows 'bad driving habits.' In fact, the idea is that by public forum, it is judged whether something is a bad driving habit. If it isn't viewed as bad, well then, people will not rib anyone. This honestly isn't about me, unless you make it about me. You could argue that by deciding which footage to publish, I (or whoever) am making that judgement, however, I think I am only making the accusation. The judgement and 'punishment' is metted out by the circle of influence in the form of ridicule. People make judgements about others every day. In fact, you are just as guilty of that yourself, as shown here. And I am also not without guilt.



Right. Total agreement with the first part of your statement. Very good reason to continue forward regardless of the second part. This feature would probably be of interest regardless of country.

Your opinion is noted. I can make no arguments against your opinion, and won't try. There are definitely legal issues involved- civil rights, privacy, serendipitous recording, just to name a few. Of course, these laws very from state to state and country to country. What I was hoping to gain from the discussion was suggestions on how to implement the idea without having these problems. Without causing any real harm to anyone. Perhaps, there is no way, but I am not yet convinced of that. Is it just morally, ethically wrong? More so than risky driving that could very likely effect the physical life of someone not even remotely involved in your decision to drive that way? Yes. Most accidents involve more than one car. Usually one person that made a decision to drive badly, and sometimes one person that is now dead as a result of that decision. If only it were 100% only the person that made the decision. Then I would argue that they have every right to drive that way.

In my state - in America - it is the law that you must wear a seatbelt. I mostly disagree with that. Since in most cases, you deciding not to wear a seatbelt has little effect on the safety of others, except in the case of your children learning by example. However, I decide to wear my seatbelt. Not because it is the law, but because it is my decision regarding my own safety. I have done it from the very first day I drove, long before the law. However, until I see just one case where a human body flies through the windshield of thier car and into the windshield of another, killing that other person on impact, I completely disagree with a law demanding it. I truly abhor attempts at saving me from myself.

Since you stated that you had lost interest, I am going to assume you aren't reading this. I don't demand a reply, you have made your point. Hopefully my response will be helpful to the discussion in general, however. I only wish that nearly the entire crutch of your argument hadn't relied so heavily on assumption. Perhaps, that is what you meant by waffling and not being precise? I left too much open to assumption?

Thank you for indulging me with the expansion of your thoughts. I do, honestly (not sarcastically) appreciate it.

Scott McDonnell

Moderators: I am sorry for posting this discussion in this topic. I can see now that it is clearly going the way of philosophical and political, not technical (at this point anyway.) If you would like to move it to the general discussion area, I think that would be best.

First of all it is illegal in more states than it is not.

ok, let's say you mess up just once and I have you on tape. then congratulations, you're a proven idiot!

Nicely put. The idea is not a bad one in principal however he goes on about not wanting to create a police state but by the very act of this very dictatorial electronic system (because if we rely on humans to be self policing nothing would happen apart from social breakdown, and if you dont believe me look at somalia where they have had no stable government for a couple of years) you are enforcing a police state. And as you quite rightly mention there are lots of people trying to do cool stuff with cameras,gps etc mainly because they are interested inthe technology rather than sorting the "Bad for the Good"

Well thank you for the philosophy lesson. no really, if you didn't have "Scott McDonalds" in your signature, I would have thought you were an ancient greek.

If you have something like Enforcer useful software contributions which is sitting in my lovely BMW in which I often do 140MPH, or darkseid's insightful discussions where he speaks of video capture amongst many things, or Cris31's unbiased thought provoking discussions, then please contribute. If you'd like to like to persist with your idea, then good luck to you. I'm unsubscribing now.

...sitting in my lovely BMW in which I often do 140MPH