Someone here has be be able to crack this HDRadio for the car! - Page 6

rock99rock · 02-12-2007, 08:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kamakazie2

correct make sure tell them that its for a 2003 3series

.. the software will be for the Roadrunner front end. you will also need a 10k ohm resistor from radio shack.

the hookup is not that hard.

This is a solution i have been looking for in order to get my carputer in the works... excellent Kamakazie!

So with your software, you will also be able to control an ipod as well?

I read somewhere that there is weather information laced in RDS... see anything like that?

And FINALLY- Can you find a way to record HDRadio to the hard-drive? Better yet, use the RDS information and have that translated into an ID3 tag, or filename for the audio file? That is my ultimate goal, and you have just opened that door.

Thanks,
Rock

Kamakazie2 · 02-12-2007, 10:11 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rock99rock

This is a solution i have been looking for in order to get my carputer in the works... excellent Kamakazie!

So with your software, you will also be able to control an ipod as well?

I read somewhere that there is weather information laced in RDS... see anything like that?

And FINALLY- Can you find a way to record HDRadio to the hard-drive? Better yet, use the RDS information and have that translated into an ID3 tag, or filename for the audio file? That is my ultimate goal, and you have just opened that door.

Thanks,
Rock

First of all let me clarify.. i am using already created software called Ibusrr or Ibuscomm. I dont want to take anyones credit

Now for the good stuff. I am certain that we can create some sort of recording feature but i would like to get full functionality first.

You will be able to fully control your ipod with this unit using the optional ipod cable as well as an AUX input.

Right now i am building a test skin to control the radio from within RR.. right now i have a nice hex filled screen with tons of raw data. Once i get the screen wokring fully i want to develop 2 way communication to display the RDS information.. I am a hardware guy so if anyone (HINT HINT!!) Could possibly help me code some software it would be greatly appreciated

theheel · 02-13-2007, 01:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kamakazie2

correct make sure tell them that its for a 2003 3series

are u serious..i should order the one for a 2003 3 series or is this a j/k that i didnt get...its that smiley... cant tell if you are serious or joking ...

Wiredwrx · 02-13-2007, 01:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by theheel

are u serious..i should order the one for a 2003 3 series or is this a j/k that i didnt get...its that smiley... cant tell if you are serious or joking ...

Yes, and since you have asked several similar questions, let me give you the low down.

Every BMW since, I believe, 1990 or so (I might be wrong on the year) uses something called the I-Bus to communicate between modules and systems. It uses the I-Bus when you press a button to unlock the doors, the door module sends a signal along the I-Bus to the lock module, which opens. THe CD changer communicates with the buttons on the radio through I-Bus. The diusplays gets thier information over I-Bus. EVERYTHING happens over the I-Bus.

The I-Bus data has been decoded, and has been for several years. With the I-Bus, assuming someone wanted to "do something" say, emulate a CD changer, they can develop something that reads the CD controls from the I-Bus, and send the appropriate information back over the I-Bus to the car, so that the car thinks there is a CD changer. This only requires an I-Bus encoder/decoder, and the proper programing.

This HD radio was created for the BMW's with I-Bus. It connects to the I-Bus, and communicates with and over the I-Bus. What they have done here is, using an I-Bus encoder/decoder, connected to the computer, decoded the information that goes over the I-Bus for the HD radio to work. They then, I assume using the instruction from the HD radio, monitored the buttons (although, there are libraries of which codes are sent with which button push in the Bimmers) to determine which codes are sent, and how the HD radio responds, so that they can program a computer to send and recieve the proper codes through the encoder/decoder to the HD radio.

Hope that explains things a little.

Michael

sama · 02-13-2007, 05:22 AM

I think it was 95 onwards, and that it started with E39s 'cos it was bm's flagship, till 6 series came out.

Kamakazie2 · 02-13-2007, 09:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by theheel

are u serious..i should order the one for a 2003 3 series or is this a j/k that i didnt get...its that smiley... cant tell if you are serious or joking ...

thanks for the breakdown on ibus WiredWRX. I suggested the 2003 3 series because it does not require any of the additional cables to run. Some of the Higher end Bmw's use digital audio converters to transfer the audio. For the car pc use we will use the standard analog audio.

RadiantX · 02-13-2007, 12:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kamakazie2

correct make sure tell them that its for a 2003 3series

.. the software will be for the Roadrunner front end. you will also need a 10k ohm resistor from radio shack.

the hookup is not that hard.

Any chance of a standalone application? I'm not a big fan of RR, but would love to add this to my CarPC setup.

strohj · 02-13-2007, 12:30 PM

or perhaps sharing the code so we can port it to streetdeck ?

RadiantX · 02-13-2007, 12:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by strohj

or perhaps sharing the code so we can port it to streetdeck ?

That would work too, heck I'll even take a shot at creating an interface for it if I know how it communicates. I'm taking a look into this iBus rarr that was posted.

Kamakazie2 · 02-13-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by strohj

or perhaps sharing the code so we can port it to streetdeck ?

Right now its running by using the BMW ibus analyzer software.. so it should be simlpe to make a stand alone program. Im just working on ironing out the actual BMW codes to send to control.

this weekend i will be mapping out the codes and hopefully working with some of the ibus guys to make the software. Right now here is what we have:

Manual Mode (1 on the BMW)
< = Tune .2 dn (< on the BMW)
> = Tune .2 up (> on the BMW)

Scan Mode (2 on the BMW)
< = Scan Dn (< on the BMW)
> = Scan up (> on the BMW)

Preset Mode (3 on the BMW)
< = Preset Dn (< on the BMW)
> = Preset Up (> on the BMW)

Input Mode (5 on the BMW)
< or > Switches between FM-AM-AUX-IPOD

Settings mode (6 on the BMW)
I will dosument this later.. it should be set to Tr3 - Which will allow for 20 character diaplsy

All of this will be organized in a nice manual once i get it figured out

Kamakazie2 · 02-16-2007, 05:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RadiantX

That would work too, heck I'll even take a shot at creating an interface for it if I know how it communicates. I'm taking a look into this iBus rarr that was posted.

Tonight is testing night for Roadrunner! IbusRR is nothing but a specialized version of Ibuscomm which takes commands from Keypresses or Other software to send the Ibus code. Unfortunatley i have only used it with RR.

What is to be expected: Full control of the HdRadio unit but still no feedback from the unit until i can get someone to pull the raw output into roadrunner or any stand alone software of their choice.

YellowMater · 02-16-2007, 05:20 PM

Can't wait. I have been following this forum for over a year and replacing my head unit was a big concern. I'm putting together a system now and have already ordered my dice unit. Thanks for all your work.

Kamakazie2 · 02-16-2007, 05:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by YellowMater

Can't wait. I have been following this forum for over a year and replacing my head unit was a big concern. I'm putting together a system now and have already ordered my dice unit. Thanks for all your work.

Dont forget the USB to Ibus interface!

Kamakazie2 · 02-18-2007, 10:23 AM

Ok, i finished the skin for RR to control the Radio.. it works! Now i just need to find out how to import the RDS information into RR..

We all have Warfield to thank for this wonderful software that works with Rolf Resler's Ibus interface...

I sent a PM to warfield to find out more about controlling the software via a stand alone program.

YellowMater · 02-18-2007, 10:24 AM

I ordered the USB interface the same day I ordered my Dice.