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01-26-2007, 10:48 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Georgia
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New VIA Mobo 1/2 the size of Nano-ITX
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2154184680.html
Quote: Originally Posted by http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2154184680.html
Via is readying a media-oriented motherboard in what could be the next popular size for small form-factor PCs: Pico-ITX. The "Epia PX" board measures 3.9 x 2.8 inches and features a 1GHz C7 processor, along with rich audio/video I/O, albeit mostly on pin headers.
Via debuted the Epia PX boards at the Lunch@Piero's event associated with the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas earlier this month. The demonstration showed pico-ITX-based systems ably running Windows XP and Vista, according to reports. Then, hours ago, some leaked photos and a short description showed up at Epiacenter.com.
The new pico-ITX form-factor will reportedly measure 3.9 x 2.8 inches (10 x 7.2 cm) -- exactly half the surface area of Via's already small 4.7 x 4.7-inch (12 x 12cm) Nano-ITX standard, and considerably smaller than the original 6.7-inch square (17 x 17cm) mini-ITX standard.
The first pico-ITX board will be called the Epia PX. It will be available initially with a C7 processor clocked at 1GHz. The Gigahertz mark has long been a "sweet spot" in Via's chip line, due to the possibility of easy passive cooling.
Additionally, Via has revealed that the PX will use Via's CX700M(2) or VX700 chipsets. Both "chipsets" actually integrate north- and south-bridge functions into single 37.5mm-square chip.
The CX700M features "premium" graphics and audio, including support for HDTV out (via DVI/LVDS and S-video), as well as a CCIR656/TS video input interface. The VX700 is a slightlier brawnier, more desktoppy chip that lacks video in, but adds extra USB and drive interfaces, managing to combine all the functions of Via's VN800/VT8237 northbridge/southbridge combo.
Regardless of which northbridge is ultimately used, the Epia PX will have only VGA and Ethernet ports onboard, with all other I/O routed to pin headers. With lots and lots of cables, and tiny, tiny cases, pico-ITX could certainly challenge hobbyist building skills, while enabling a whole new class of case mods. PC in an Altoids tin, anyone?
In a two-page article about Via's roadmap for the year ahead, Sal Cangeloso of XYZ Computing surmises that Via intends pico-ITX for consumers, similar to mini-ITX. On the other hand, Nano-ITX, he suggests, is intended more for the industrial embedded market, explaining the continued high prices and limited availability of Via's Epia NX boards.
Cangeloso expects Via to ask about $250 for the Epia PX. His story can be found here. The brief Epiacenter story, meanwhile, can be found here.
Availability
Via has not yet announced either pricing or availability details for the Epia PX.
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01-26-2007, 11:36 AM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Yegods...
I'm glad I'm waiting a little bit to start gathering parts. That may be worth the wait.
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01-26-2007, 08:26 PM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Seattle
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Pico ITX
don't know if this a repost, but after Mini ITX and nano ITX, looks like there's going to be Pico ITX too. man, how much smaller can these get!?!
engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/26/v...f-form-factor/
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01-27-2007, 05:28 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2000
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New system : 6x5x2" contains 1GHz C3 PCM9373, ISR based PSU, 8Gb flash DOM, 98Lite, DirectShow based frontend.
GPS : Rikaline 6010.
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01-27-2007, 08:44 AM
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Neither darque nor pervert
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Threads merged.
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01-27-2007, 12:44 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Michigan
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Need info on the included adapters/connectors...if it will fit all my hardware, think Im gonna turn the MII-12000 into a media center and install the Pico-ITX into that little space behind my lilliput....
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01-27-2007, 05:18 PM
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My Village Called
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
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This looks awesome! Great if you want to make yourself a digital dashboard, as it doesn't need a lot of processing power.
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01-27-2007, 08:09 PM
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It's not really that small...No, seriously.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida
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Anyone catch the new PicoITX yet?
http://linuxgobiz.com/2788=Via_s_inc...wns__pico-ITX_
The thing looks AMAZING. I pray it has an optical in for audio and Im buying one. It will make Car PC's amazing!!!
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01-27-2007, 08:12 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Ipswich, UK
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I took more than 2 years from announcement for nano-itx to be available, so I wouldn't hold your breath for this one
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01-27-2007, 08:14 PM
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It's not really that small...No, seriously.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida
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yeah I know but 4 inches by 3 inches! thats damned tiny.
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[Routis '04] [Opus 90W] [160GB Maxtor HD]
[Lilliput 7" TS] [VIA M10000] [XMPCR]
[512MB RAM] [Custom housing]
[Deluo GPS Mouse] [E-MU 0404 Soundcard]
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01-28-2007, 04:25 AM
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Raw Wave
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Surrey, UK
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6yr old first install died 20/8/2005 as result of bad bios flash.
New system : 6x5x2" contains 1GHz C3 PCM9373, ISR based PSU, 8Gb flash DOM, 98Lite, DirectShow based frontend.
GPS : Rikaline 6010.
Display : LTM08C351 + LVDS receiver.
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01-28-2007, 08:31 AM
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Neither darque nor pervert
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: In The Sticks near The 'Ham
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Merged..
Please use the search function prior to posting, people!
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01-28-2007, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Connecticut, USA
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guy i think you are overestimating this a bit too much, yes you can make it really small, but lacking in expansion of the board... how well is the sound quality going to be? and wireless internet?
i know you can do all that through usb cables, but then you have crap running everywhere, and is that really what you want? =p
i like how i can take my computer out in half a minute, and have all the perephierals (besides teh lilliput) out with it for testing and upgrading it
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02-03-2007, 05:01 AM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: May 2005
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pretty impressive...
I am using an Advantch SBC measuring in at just under 4x6".... I thought that was small!
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02-15-2007, 01:13 PM
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It's not really that small...No, seriously.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida
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I hope it comes out soon. With the ability of opitcal in I can finally ditch my soundcard and build a truly small carPC
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'02 GTI
[Routis '04] [Opus 90W] [160GB Maxtor HD]
[Lilliput 7" TS] [VIA M10000] [XMPCR]
[512MB RAM] [Custom housing]
[Deluo GPS Mouse] [E-MU 0404 Soundcard]
Progress Meter: [==============|] 99.9%
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