Software options for Tuning - Page 24

XC-C30 · 01-16-2007, 10:57 PM

didn't think of that.....

Iceman_jkh · 01-16-2007, 11:41 PM

put the Pc in the engine bay and run your water cooling through the car's radiator

durwood · 01-17-2007, 07:34 AM

Holy moly, I don't look at this thread for one night and it goes crazy. hahaha.

Ok, A Duo Core would be cool, but I'm not sure it's totally needed yet. I conjured up some old parts, a socket 478 mobo, a Pentium M 1.5 or 1.6Ghz processor (don't remember now) 256MB ram, and ran the FULL allocator version through CONSOLE with (2) EQ's and (4) time delays. CPU usage ~50% for music playback through winamp. Read my worklog if you want to see more info. I didn't post it here yet because I haven't sat down and gave it a full run through with Roadrunner and everything else running. I have been dying to but I have other things that are soaking up my free time at the moment. Very very soon....Funds are on hold and unless I sell some stuff, I don't have my hands on Console yet other than the demo version.

Either way, I am confident my Alpine 701 will be going bye bye before competition seasons hits.

netchris · 01-17-2007, 12:12 PM

Is console necessary? Can't VAC do the same thing? I'm hoping so since I'm on the 'ol college budget.. :-X

RedGTiVR6 · 01-17-2007, 12:27 PM

do you have a link to VAC netchris?

I have a pentium D sitting on my desk. Being that it needs roughly 95 watts or so to operate, and it requires a pretty hefty fan....I'm considering the Core 2 Duo for this project.

If I could find a super quiet, low profile fan for the pentium D, I'd definately consider it.

Even though the Core 2 Duo has a slower clock speed, I don't believe it's indicative of it's overall perforamnce when compared to the single core processors.

Regarding the discussion talkign about why go with a Core 2 Duo when the Core 2 Quad will be out (already is) and affordable.

From talking with the Intel rep at CES, he indicated that we would never see the Core 2 Quad in the mobile scene. It's too power hungry and produces too much heat. On that regard, I'll jump onto the Core 2 Duo processor for now...especially since I can't afford to wait a year for a new processor to come out or for prices to drop. I need this all in the car and running in about a month...

btw - here's the link to the thread: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/general-hardware-discussion/94612-core-duo-core-2-duo-processors-post996332.html

but it looks like most others have already found it...hehehehe

turbocad6 · 01-17-2007, 12:47 PM

ok, so now, driving home last night & thinking about this, I think I came up with a solution for myself...

I had planned on doing dual pc's in this car anyway... my son is pretty computer active & I think it would be cool for him to have a terminal at his seat... trying to do all this on one pc would be a hasle for sure, & since I will be depending on the front pc for all audio & navigation, I figured an extra laptop motherboard would be the best solution...

well, I think I came up with a plan..... the pentium m machine I spoke about should be able to do all the audio processing... I mean if that's all I asked of it, & then use a laptop board for the frontend & all mp3/ nav, etc, I already know the laptop board will handle that, especially if it did no audio processing at all.... so in effect, I will be using the more powerful machine as an audio server, then, for the few times that my kid is in the car, I can have him run his web browsing or whatever, on that machine maybe...

so now the question is, is it possible to stream the audio from one machine to the other without loss, & then have the second machine do the processing? I'm guessing it should be, but I don't know much about that either.... any ideas there?

RedGTiVR6 · 01-17-2007, 12:51 PM

by streaming - do you mean wireless or do you mean over cat 5 or the like?

turbocad6 · 01-17-2007, 12:54 PM

cat5... I have no problem running whatever necissary really..

RedGTiVR6 · 01-17-2007, 01:00 PM

I don't see why not. But I'm no expert on that side of things.

Wireless would seem to have some lag in it and might loose some quality, but I'm not 100% on that either.

turbocad6 · 01-17-2007, 02:34 PM

ok, last stupid question (for now anyway), I've been looking at duo 2 core laptops.... is there an audio interface that is as good as a desktop pci card, but in a form factor that will work well with a laptop, either firewire or usb2 or even pcmcia?

durwood · 01-17-2007, 02:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by netchris

Is console necessary? Can't VAC do the same thing? I'm hoping so since I'm on the 'ol college budget.. :-X

Well from what I see they cost the same $$. But Console does much more than VAC, you can string many VST plugins together. I think but am not sure but VAC is still necessary for non-asio cards from what I have read.

http://www.thuneau.com/forum/viewtop...r=asc&start=15

http://www.thuneau.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=97

http://www.thuneau.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79

It's kind of confusing but maybe you should try some of those methods for yourself and see if you can get it to work with the demos before you buy anything.

If your soundcard does not have ASIO drivers native then I think you need Console. Even if you try to use ASIO4ALL, those are not native drivers then you need to combine that with VAC. I had trouble getting a Creative Audigy card working with it, but I might have had something setup wrong.

Turbocad-

That's an interesting method. I'm a bit confused. I tried diagraming it out, but I don't quite understand which computer the music is streaming/coming from and which is doing the audio processing. Maybe I am overthinking it. From what I see it would be kind of funky.

Your frontend runs on the laptop board. The frontend links the music library from the rear computer. So when you click on an mp3 it streams it from the rear machine back into the laptop through cat5 and then the laptop does the processing? Was that what you meant?

RedGTiVR6 · 01-17-2007, 02:41 PM

http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/ultralite/

If I can't get this sound card that I'm working with to work, I'll be going that route.

You can get it at Guitar Center.

I believe around $500 or so?

durwood · 01-17-2007, 02:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by turbocad6

ok, last stupid question (for now anyway), I've been looking at duo 2 core laptops.... is there an audio interface that is as good as a desktop pci card, but in a form factor that will work well with a laptop, either firewire or usb2 or even pcmcia?

Did you have a price range? Or special features you wanted? The ESI gigaport would make your life easy if it has Directwire. Someone said it does but on their webpage I didn't think it directwire was included or worked with it.

M-Audio Firewire 410 is a good choice too. It has routing features in its software I thought.

durwood · 01-17-2007, 02:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6

http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/ultralite/

If I can't get this sound card that I'm working with to work, I'll be going that route.

You can get it at Guitar Center.

I believe around $500 or so?

Yepp thats a good one too. Look for the professional cards, don;t even waste your time in the consumer level cards.

RedGTiVR6 · 01-17-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by durwood

If your soundcard does not have ASIO drivers native then I think you need Console. Even if you try to use ASIO4ALL, those are not native drivers then you need to combine that with VAC. I had trouble getting a Creative Audigy card working with it, but I might have had something setup wrong.

Even if your card does have native ASIO support, it still might need Console. For instance, my card will need it as it doesn't have any method to internally route the signal.

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