Bugs! - Page 2

srbatty · 02-07-2009, 12:36 AM

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I had a crash with ICE3 I'll report here. I'd forgotten to set the movie path and tried to run a movie while music was playing. I got the beach ball for a minute and then just blank movie list. Realizing I forgot to set the path, I went to the settings menu and selected the path, then hit okay.

Thanks Bugbyte, we have found the bug and the fix will be in the next release.

Thanks for the feedback scatebase.

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I have noticed over the last couple of days that when coming back from sleep, ICE3 sometimes will not play anything. It acts like a song is playing, but there is no sound; not even the 'pop' sound from the buttons. After quitting and opening ICE3 again, it will work fine.

Unfortunately this has been an annoying random bug that has been with us ever since bikerdudepost found it in version 1. Because it is random, we are finding it very hard to track down.

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Another problem I have noticed may or may not be a bug. When in coverflow, when the currently playing track changes to a track on another album, the artwork shown will not change. If I hit home and then go back to the coverflow, it will automatically display the currently playing artwork. Is there anyway to have it automatically display the artwork of the currently playing artwork.

This is not a bug. At the time of writing this code, we found it very annoying to be flicking through covers searching for something, when all of a sudden coverflow would jump to the now playing cover when playing the next track. We may sit down and rethink it in the future.

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It would also be nice if there was a 'now playing' type screen. It would be a screen that would show the track's atwork, name, album, number, and time. That same screen would have playback and volume controls. similar to the way CarFrontEnd or NeonBoomBox do it.

I personally don't like "Now Playing" screens, however, I could write a "Now Playing" visualizer. The visualizer already has artwork, name, album and playback control, I would only have to publish an input for the time. Would this be acceptable?

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One more thing(i promise) that has been a problem for me, is that there is no easy way to control the alert/button noise volume. I currently use the system volume setting to control it, but it limits the volume of my music.

This is interesting. I had thought that after using ICE³ for a while, everybody would turn off the button noise and it would no longer be an issue. I will look into adding a button volume control.

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I really do love this release and can't wait to see it get better. Sorry for such a long rambling post. I hope it all makes since.

Same here, and with feedback like this I am sure ICE³ can only get better.

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I almost forgot, the automatic dimming sometimes has issues. It doesn't always dim at the right time and if you change a setting, you have to turn automatic dimming off and then back on to make it apply the new setting.

Are you still having this problem? It seems to work perfectly for me. When you say it doesn't always dim at the right time, what time does it dim at, and what time did you set it to dim at?

scatebase · 02-08-2009, 08:41 PM

Thanks for your response.

In regards to the cover flow automatically going to the new track; maybe you could make it similar to the way itunes does it. If you manually change the selected cover art, it will wait about 30 sec. before changing to currently playing track. If you don't touch anything it will instantly change and the next/previous buttons will always cause the cover art to change.

Also, when double tapping an album cover in cover art, a new screen comes up that list the tracks on that album and there is no simple way to return to the cover flow section.

scatebase · 02-08-2009, 08:54 PM

What is the reason for having three sections for music? I only use cover flow because it looks the most impressive. Does anyone use all 3 audio sections? or do you only use the one you prefer?

Unless there is a benefit to the current layout that I don't see, maybe you could add a view option that would include: coverflow, list by artist, list by album, and list by favorite.

A lot of my suggestions may sound like iTunes, but that's because iTunes works well and seems to meet most peoples needs. I understand if that's not where you want this front end to go, but that's just my 2 cents.

srbatty · 02-08-2009, 09:17 PM

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In regards to the cover flow automatically going to the new track; maybe you could make it similar to the way itunes does it. If you manually change the selected cover art, it will wait about 30 sec. before changing to currently playing track. If you don't touch anything it will instantly change and the next/previous buttons will always cause the cover art to change.

Yes. I have been thinking it through, and there isn't really much code that needs to written. I'll see if I can squeeze it into the next release.

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Also, when double tapping an album cover in cover art, a new screen comes up that list the tracks on that album and there is no simple way to return to the cover flow section.

Have you tried the back arrow on the right hand side of the screen?

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What is the reason for having three sections for music? I only use cover flow because it looks the most impressive. Does anyone use all 3 audio sections? or do you only use the one you prefer?

The hardest part about creating ICE³, was that everyone has a different way of using it. Even the beta testers had differing ideas about everything.
I pretty much only use playlists in the car. However, passengers use EVERYTHING!!

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Unless there is a benefit to the current layout that I don't see, maybe you could add a view option that would include: coverflow, list by artist, list by album, and list by favorite.

This will most likely happen when we need somewhere OBD, GPS, XM, FM, iPhone etc..

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A lot of my suggestions may sound like iTunes, but that's because iTunes works well and seems to meet most peoples needs. I understand if that's not where you want this front end to go, but that's just my 2 cents.

Maybe one day Apple will come to the party with a 7" iPhone, then everyone will be able to use iTunes in the car.

Thanks again for the feedback.

sonneboz · 02-09-2009, 06:47 AM

I know it was visited once already, but I still have a question. When you set the playback on wake to "resume", it does in fact resume where it left off after waking from sleep. My problem is that I will more than likely be shutting it down every time, and when you do this it starts playing the first song on the list when you start it back up, instead of where you left off . Is there anyway you could write the data to the disk before shutting off, so when you start ICE3 back up it will know where you last were?

srbatty · 02-09-2009, 01:41 PM

I can't see any problems with that.
I'm sure we can write the currently playing track to the plist on exit.

golfguy · 02-09-2009, 08:08 PM

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What is the reason for having three sections for music? I only use cover flow because it looks the most impressive. Does anyone use all 3 audio sections? or do you only use the one you prefer?

I rarely use coverflow because I've got way too much music to flip through while I'm driving. I'm organized mostly by playlists that I set up so i can shuffle things I like without having to be too distracted while I'm driving. So Artist/Album and Favorites (now that I know how to export my Playlists for Ice3) are exactly the way I like to find my music.

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A lot of my suggestions may sound like iTunes, but that's because iTunes works well and seems to meet most peoples needs. I understand if that's not where you want this front end to go, but that's just my 2 cents.

I have to agree with this - I've become accustomed to iTunes and like the navigation structure. A Front Row-type clone that can use a touchscreen would be almost perfect.

sonneboz · 02-09-2009, 09:36 PM

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I can't see any problems with that.
I'm sure we can write the currently playing track to the plist on exit.

Awesome, thanks yet again

golfguy · 04-19-2009, 11:03 PM

Now that I've been using the current version for a while I've run across a couple behaviors that may be bugs or may be how you intend for it to work:

1) The rewind control (<<) instead of going to the beginning of the current song, like most CD players/iPods/iTunes, goes to the beginning of the previous song.

2) When I turn off the car and the computer goes to sleep, ICE3 starts the song over again when I start the car and the computer wakes up. Not tragic, but could you start from where I turned it off? - Edit - It also does not shuffle after sleep. It plays in consecutive order until you touch the forward (>>) control, then it shuffles.

3) It would be nice when navigating an album, movie or playlist that after I've selected an item (i.e. touched and highlighted it) that it would start playing if I hit the play/pause button instead of having to use the >> button on the right side of the screen. The pause/play seems more intuitive to start a movie, for instance, than touching the >> on the right side.

I'm really enjoying using the new version. Keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to OBD and all the other cool stuff you're working on.

nicr4wks · 06-05-2009, 04:16 AM

Couple of bugs...

When playing the last movie in your list of movies, if you press the next button ice3 crashes requiring a force quit, perhaps start playing from the start of the movie list.

Movie player does not read sub directories, eg when the movie path is set to '\users\nick\movies' the 'Music Video' and 'Video' sub directories do not show

scatebase · 06-05-2009, 09:16 PM

Since the last update, i've noticed that any ratings that i set for songs don't stay after i quit ICE3. I have the itunes library support turned on. This isn't a big deal for me, but i thought it might be something that could be easily fixed.

Thanks ahead of time!

pulsarsimon · 11-02-2009, 05:29 AM

Hi Guys, first of all, congrats on the only (that I could find) front end that's still alive and working for OSX.

anyways, I have a small problem -

my entire library is WAV format (I hate compression), and no matter what I try, I can't get the tracks to show up in the selector

I set the music folder to Users/Macmini/Music/iTunes/Itunes Music/
or anything for that matter, and there's no tracks in there.

If I set the 'use iTunes Library' I see the library folders, but they are all empty. I know I have 7 albums in the Albums folder, but it show empty.

any clues?

klaarn · 11-03-2009, 10:06 PM

why don't you just transcode the wav to alac? i keep a master library in flac and transcode as needed, since itunes won't handle a flac library...

pulsarsimon · 11-04-2009, 02:09 AM

I don't want to start an argument, but even the 'lossless' codecs have loss, mostly introduced by the decoding process.

I'd hoped pcm WAV would be supported.

klaarn · 11-04-2009, 07:42 AM

i'm not arguing, i'm interested. do you have any references that discuss the loss in the decoding process you're talking about?

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