Slot Load DVD/CD Connectivity/Mounting

jschrauwen · 09-02-2006, 09:44 PM

Time to source a slim slot load DVD/CD. I did a search and found some interesting info which leads me to ask more questions.

1. From what I gather all slot load devices come with a psuedo face plate - correct?

2. If so, would this face place be strong enough to mount to a flat piece of ABS on a center console?

3. Do all slim slot load devices utilize an IDE connector?

4. Is the only way to connect these units is to get a a case for them that contains an IDE to USB interface inside the case? Then run the USB to the PC?
mp3car store - Ultra Slim External Enclosure USB 2.0/FireWire

5. Do all of these 3 devices from the mp3car store have only IDE interface?
Panasonic Slot Load DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo Drive 24x24x24
Panasonic UJ-845-B Slim Slot load DVD±R/±RW/+RDL/RAM Multi Drive
Pioneer Slot Load DVR-K05 DVD±R/+R DL/±RW Dual Drive 8X

I do have an available USB and Firewire port on my MB. Suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks,

John

FC3S · 09-02-2006, 10:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jschrauwen

Time to source a slim slot load DVD/CD. I did a search and found some interesting info which leads me to ask more questions.

1. From what I gather all slot load devices come with a psuedo face plate - correct?

2. If so, would this face place be strong enough to mount to a flat piece of ABS on a center console?

3. Do all slim slot load devices utilize an IDE connector?

4. Is the only way to connect these units is to get a a case for them that contains an IDE to USB interface inside the case? Then run the USB to the PC?
mp3car store - Ultra Slim External Enclosure USB 2.0/FireWire

5. Do all of these 3 devices from the mp3car store have only IDE interface?
Panasonic Slot Load DVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo Drive 24x24x24
Panasonic UJ-845-B Slim Slot load DVD±R/±RW/+RDL/RAM Multi Drive
Pioneer Slot Load DVR-K05 DVD±R/+R DL/±RW Dual Drive 8X

I do have an available USB and Firewire port on my MB. Suggestions/recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks,

John

1. yes they have face plates
2. probably not an issue, just make sure its supported from underneath as well
3. they use 44pin to 40pin ide adapters..
4. not the only way, but the only way to run it a distance

you can get the 44pin-40pin ide connector, then connect the drive to an available ide cable in your case
5. they are all ide, but again, you can get adaptors

depends where you want to put it, and how far from the case, more than a couple feet, get the usb/firewire adaptor, within a foot or 2 from the case, just use the 44-40pin adaptor, and use an available ide cable from in the case

thanatos106 · 09-02-2006, 10:12 PM

1. don't understand... what do you call psuedo face plate?
2.answer #1 and I tell you.
3.Nope, the most populars (like the one mention in #5 have a 50 pin conector, from there is up tp you to decide what to use)
4.The enclosure does't contain a IDE connector it have a 50 pin to USB\firewire directly)
5.Wrong again, time to make your homework (it have a 50 pin connector)

My Suggestion is go with the firewire enclosure if you want to know why make a

with my username and the word "enclosure"

Thanatos.

thanatos106 · 09-02-2006, 10:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by FC3S

1. yes they have face plates
2. probably not an issue, just make sure its supported from underneath as well
3. they use 44pin to 40pin ide adapters..
4. not the only way, but the only way to run it a distance

you can get the 44pin-40pin ide connector, then connect the drive to an available ide cable in your case
5. they are all ide, but again, you can get adaptors

depends where you want to put it, and how far from the case, more than a couple feet, get the usb/firewire adaptor, within a foot or 2 from the case, just use the 44-40pin adaptor, and use an available ide cable from in the case

Base on the input in #5 form the OP you are super WRONG!!

Thanatos.

FC3S · 09-02-2006, 11:34 PM

blah blah

he can do his own research, i worded it wrong, but i know what the difference is

thanatos106 · 09-03-2006, 12:32 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by FC3S

blah blah

he can do his own research, i worded it wrong, but i know what the difference is

Yeah right!!

if you going to give wrong info, DON'T POST AT ALL!!...

Thanatos.

FC3S · 09-03-2006, 02:03 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by thanatos106

Yeah right!!

if you going to give wrong info, DON'T POST AT ALL!!...

Thanatos.

it was just worded improperly, get off ur high horse already -_-;

2k1Toaster · 09-03-2006, 02:08 AM

To correct in case some lone soul find this thread in 2029, it is a JAE50 connector. Basically a tiny IDE connector with power integrated into the connector used for laptops.

W3bMa5t3r · 09-03-2006, 02:12 AM

He's super... thanks for asking.. /south park...

but yes... it's the JAE50 as 2k1Toaster stated. They are also used on the slim cd/dvd drives like in the slim dell towers. Those actually use a sweet lil adapter that takes the JAE50 from the back of the cd/dvd drive to an IDE connector, so all you have to do is plug it in (and the smaller power connector-small molex like for a floppy drive)

2k1Toaster · 09-03-2006, 02:15 AM

Most adaptors have the floppy power connector on them because IDE connectors don't have power signals.

jschrauwen · 09-03-2006, 03:17 AM

Like I mentioneded in opening thread, I tried a search and did learn about these drives and since then have tried to dig up more. I think a few may be under the belief that it will be co-located with the PC. My appologies for the slight oversight. I thought that my mentioning that it will be mounted on my center console that that would imply enough ... sorry. The slot drive will require at least 5' of cabling or more to the PC.
Based on feedback so far;
Almost all of the slim slot load drives are IDE.
That I need to get an IDE connector. Like this 50 pin to 40 pin one like this perhaps -

If so, how do I get from that to USB/Firewire? Can't seem to find that type of adapter.
Or should I get the ultra slim enclosure that has the USB/Firewire like this instead? -

If I go with the case, will there be enough of the slot drive exposed to effectively mount it to a face plate?

If I'm understanding correctly, there is no straight forward adapter that takes it from the 50 pin pin-out on the back of the slim drive directly to a USB/Firewire/power cabling arrangement?
That I need some sort of interim IDE to possibly an IDC adapter and then is there an adapter to take it from that to USB/Firewire?

Sounds like I'll need series of adapters to make this happen. Does everyone have to go through all of this for their remote slim drives or is this a common set-up and just something I've never had to tackle before?

W3bMa5t3r · 09-03-2006, 03:34 AM

If you check out my project link in my sig (around post 18) you can see I did what "I think" you are trying to do. I installed a slim cd/dvd drive in my center console below my 10.4" touchscreen.

Here is a crappy pic, but maybe it'll help (and it is a ghetto setup.. fixed now)

Basically it goes like this:

CD/DVD DRIVE -> DELL's JAE50 to IDE Cable with Floppy Power Plug -> The internals of an external usb hard drive kit (plugging the IDE part of the Dell cable piece into the IDE slot on the kit) -> RUNNING USB cable -> Laptop

The external hard drive was designed to run off AC, but the internals actually run off 12v or 5v DC (don't remember exactly) so I just spliced in a molex and connected it to my M2ATX.

The orangeish ribbion cable piece is the Dell JAE50 to IDE cable with floppy power plug

I was asked about this in my worklog, so there's probably more info there.

/edit... I was wrong I guess. I wasn't asked about it, unless it was somewhere else. It's been a while so I don't really remember.

W3bMa5t3r · 09-03-2006, 03:43 AM

Found where I've discussed this before

http://mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthre...ight=webmaster

jschrauwen · 09-03-2006, 04:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by W3bMa5t3r

Found where I've discussed this before

http://mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthre...ight=webmaster

That link looks great and so many USB options there, I'm not sure which is best. I'm assuming that there should be a USB and a 5V line going to an adapter - correct? Which of these should do the trick;

http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_list.php...&cat=USB+Cable

Safe to assume that these USB's will retrieve the signal but what about slim drive power?

W3bMa5t3r · 09-03-2006, 04:52 AM

I would say 2 & 3 which are the same. Remember that the JAE50 connector will probably also need the floppy power connector... k, I'm heading home to catch some sleep, so I'll check back in a few... later