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11-08-2006, 10:18 PM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Vehicle: 2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe
Posts: 6,852
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All these pics look nice (well except for that SUV thingamajig that look welded to the top), but has anyone got a nondestructive way of doing things? If I have to I'll buy a spare trunk lid and do it that way. Everything must be reversable!!!
Oh and for those of you with IR, how's the "night vision"?
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11-08-2006, 10:29 PM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 605
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My night vision is awsome.
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11-08-2006, 10:42 PM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Vehicle: 2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe
Posts: 6,852
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So Civic03, about the hole in your trunk... Is that hole there forever now? And is it really like a 1" diameter hole? On the inside of the trunk, does it protude out a little so that things can get caught on it and everything?
I have a civic as well, so I appreciate the info. I might get something like this for Christmas.
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11-08-2006, 11:39 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Vehicle: 06 Impreza Hatch
Posts: 427
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Has anyone tried mounting the camera and led's inside the car on the dash or parcel tray facing out? Does the angle of the windscreen distort the image/reduce the effectiveness of the inra red led's?
On my Impreza (see dealer image below), i'm looking to have both forward and rear facing cameras. The rear is for reversing, with the front connected just for fun. That way with some software that will keep a rolling buffer of about 2 minutes or so, I can capture any incidents on the road, or simply have it recording if I'm on a car cruise etc.
Now I'm not sure whether I'll mount the front facing camera inside on the dash in a custom housing, or mount it in the one of the many grilles available to me on the front of the car.
As for the rear, I was thinking of just cutting it into the bumper (not ideal on my 4 week old car) plus I don't think the perspective from being mounted on the bumper is ideal to judge distances. I was thinking of maybe mounting it under the rear spoiler looking down on a 45 degree angle. You wouldn't be able to see it under there, unless you were on your knees.
Any ideas or experiences with this type of thing? (P.s. sorry to hijack the thread)

Last edited by NiSlo : 11-08-2006 at 11:41 PM.
Reason: Only a drunk person could understand some of it
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11-08-2006, 11:49 PM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Vehicle: 2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe
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Quote: Originally Posted by NiSlo 
Has anyone tried mounting the camera and led's inside the car on the dash or parcel tray facing out? Does the angle of the windscreen distort the image/reduce the effectiveness of the inra red led's?
On my Impreza (see dealer image below), i'm looking to have both forward and rear facing cameras. The rear is for reversing, with the front connected just for fun. That way with some software that will keep a rolling buffer of about 2 minutes or so, I can capture any incidents on the road, or simply have it recording if I'm on a car cruise etc.
Now I'm not sure whether I'll mount the front facing camera inside on the dash in a custom housing, or mount it in the one of the many grilles available to me on the front of the car.
As for the rear, I was thinking of just cutting it into the bumper (not ideal on my 4 week old car) plus I don't think the perspective from being mounted on the bumper is ideal to judge distances. I was thinking of maybe mounting it under the rear spoiler looking down on a 45 degree angle. You wouldn't be able to see it under there, unless you were on your knees.
Any ideas or experiences with this type of thing? (P.s. sorry to hijack the thread)

I was thinking that I would put mine under the spoiler too. I too don't want to hack up my pretty car! 
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11-08-2006, 11:54 PM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Vehicle: 06 Impreza Hatch
Posts: 427
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Quote: Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster 
I was thinking that I would put mine under the spoiler too. I too don't want to hack up my pretty car! 
Tell me about it. It took me 5 minutes to pshyce myself up enought pull the radio dash surround off to see how much room I could work with
How were you looking to do it? Use one of those cameras with the 'u' shaped brackets or a standalone camera in a small angled enclosure?
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11-09-2006, 12:10 AM
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Maximum Bitrate
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Fresno, CA
Vehicle: 91/chevy/S-10
Posts: 743
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I had a full size security camera mounted to my tailgate hitch hole. Although it was there to run some video tests with. It was really nice looking  I got a lot of looks from people when i had it mounted to the utility box.
So some questions i have for everyone. Are your cameras water proof? That one mounted to the SUV i dont think is made for outdoor use? And there all 12volts right. Anyone have problems with powering strait from battery/car alt. Does the video flicker or is it pretty clean. Does anyone use a regulater to power there cameras, stand alone regulator or from carputer power supply?
Might as well make this thread usefull later. 
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11-09-2006, 12:20 AM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Vehicle: 2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe
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Quote: Originally Posted by NiSlo 
Tell me about it. It took me 5 minutes to pshyce myself up enought pull the radio dash surround off to see how much room I could work with
How were you looking to do it? Use one of those cameras with the 'u' shaped brackets or a standalone camera in a small angled enclosure?
Took me about 2 days to finally convince myself to pry up the panel for the radio! And then I just took a peek and put it back together! I almost had a heartattack when I had to drill a hole in the firewall to run a 4awg wire from battery to computer!
I was thinking on using a waterproof wideangled coloured ccd with ir camera with a bracket mount of some sort. Then perhaps epoxy some very strong permanent magnets onto the base. The stick it up under the spoiler. Only problem is that, I don't want it to fall off and fly away! I don't want a hole at all, and I don't want to make it look stupid. The only other things I can think of, is put it inside the car on the back flat area, but dark tint, and spoiler would render that pretty useless, or get one of those crappy liscense plate frames with the "El Cheapo" cmos, non ir camera built into it. I was looking on eBay and the ones that I find with the IR are pretty big, and would look a little funny hanging off a spoiler, and the small good ones have no ir. I am looking to completely replace the rearview monitor with a 5-7" lcd that takes the rearview picture always. I don't know though...
My other thought was to actually go to the dealership or a reputable installer and ask them to stick in the trunk somehow with a warranty or something so that if they screw up, then I have someone to go after other than myself.
Maybe if I can find a cheap spare trunk (  ) then I can hack that up!
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11-09-2006, 12:34 AM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Vehicle: 2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe
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Alright, more threadjacking:
I got out of my blonde moment, and realized that I didn't have to stick with rearview cameras! duh! So I started looking around at the spy section of eBay, and found the one in the picture. Something like this, would be easier to mount under the spoiler, or on top. Just need to find a wide angle, and small as can be.
They also have 42 ir led models... That's pretty spiffy! The search thickens!

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11-09-2006, 02:30 AM
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Variable Bitrate
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Vehicle: 06 Impreza Hatch
Posts: 427
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[quote=pRoFiT;959989]
Are your cameras water proof?
And there all 12volts right?
Anyone have problems with powering strait from battery/car alt?
Does the video flicker or is it pretty clean?
Does anyone use a regulater to power there cameras, stand alone regulator or from carputer power supply?
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This is something like what I'm looking to get here
So in answer to your questions:
1.Yes
2 Yes, this one is
3. It says it uses only 50 mA, so that shouldnt be an issue, but I would be looking to splice into the +12v reverse light feed re, so it's only on when you need it
4. We'll soon see. I'll post with results
5. Perhaps a small regulator inline from the reverse light +12v would suffice? A current of 50mA shouldn't cause any trouble with the reverse light should it?
Last edited by NiSlo : 11-09-2006 at 02:33 AM.
Reason: Spelling like a 2 year old
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11-09-2006, 02:54 AM
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FLAC
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Vehicle: 2002 Chrysler Sebring Coupe LXI
Posts: 1,747
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I took a different tact and went inside. The *** of my car is high and there are a lot of blindspots, so I wanted it closer to center to cover the side rear quarters of view. It's mounted to a mini-servo so it can sweep left and right and mounted far enough back so no one will crack their skull on it in an accident, though I'm going to make a little sexy enclosure for it at some point.
2.5mb Divx here
The pylons show how much area I gained by putting it inside.
When the software is all done, the servo will allow me about ~ 300 degrees of view.
Last edited by shotgunefx : 11-09-2006 at 02:55 AM.
Reason: typo
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11-09-2006, 03:04 AM
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Low Bitrate
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 106
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Help Needed , I'm searching for a camera on ebay they all have the same spec's but the price is different can someone send me a link to a known good camera that can be seen in the dark that not sp expensive ?
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11-09-2006, 04:04 AM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Vehicle: 2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe
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Quote: Originally Posted by shotgunefx 
I took a different tact and went inside. The *** of my car is high and there are a lot of blindspots, so I wanted it closer to center to cover the side rear quarters of view. It's mounted to a mini-servo so it can sweep left and right and mounted far enough back so no one will crack their skull on it in an accident, though I'm going to make a little sexy enclosure for it at some point.
2.5mb Divx here
The pylons show how much area I gained by putting it inside.
When the software is all done, the servo will allow me about ~ 300 degrees of view.
Nice.
If I could I would. My tint though would render it useless. Yours looks beautiful by the way!
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11-09-2006, 04:34 AM
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FLAC
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Vehicle: 2002 Chrysler Sebring Coupe LXI
Posts: 1,747
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Quote: Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster 
Nice.
If I could I would. My tint though would render it useless. Yours looks beautiful by the way!
Thanks. I've only got 20 on the back (max legal here), don't know how dark yours is, but those nitemax cameras are pretty damn senstive, almost too sensitive, so if it's not opaque, still might be doable.
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11-09-2006, 04:39 AM
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Fusion Brain Creator
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado, but Canadian!
Vehicle: 2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe
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Quote: Originally Posted by shotgunefx 
Thanks. I've only got 20 on the back (max legal here), don't know how dark yours is, but those nitemax cameras are pretty damn senstive, almost too sensitive, so if it's not opaque, still might be doable.
I've got 15% or 20% and it is not that dark, but at night, I can see the headlights of cars, but not the cars. That is actually why I want to do this. Not for bling-bling, but for safety. I protected my CarPC, but put myself in danger!
What model is that camera? NiteMax ???? And at night, the IR works through your tint pretty well?
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