Giuliano

The NonEDIDMode_AddSwSettings section is supposed to be for the non-IEGD driver packages, the standard Intel or Dell drivers.

I'm not surprised that caused the IEGD installer to hang..


Very odd..


If you can capture the settings for your laptop's LCD panel, I can try to re-create those timings in a IEGD driver package.


It's kind of difficult, as the internals of these laptops are practically unknown at the low-level technical details..


A resolution of 800 x 480 has an aspect ratio of 15:9.

Pictures and text will appear normally, as all the pixels are square.

Circles will be circles and not ovals, squares will be squares and not rectangles.


When you get to playing video or DVD's, the aspect ratio of the source media can be handled two ways:

The aspect can be ignored, and the video stretched to fit the height and width resolutions of the screen.

The aspect can be maintained, and the video stretched to fit the width resolution of the screen.


When the aspect is maintained, you get black bars on the left/right for 4:3 video, and black bars on the top/bottom for 16:9 video.

Other aspects are similar.


The aspect control settings are dependant on the media player software or DVD software, for the most part.


Basically it boils down to this:

If you get the display running at the LCD panel's native resolution, or at least an even multiple, the picture will be fine.

Giuliano

Hithere,

Do you know which one of these your laptop LCD panel is, on your Dell Inspiron 6400?

WXGA (1280 x 800)
WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050)


If I can find out what the panel is, I think I can build a DTD for the laptop LCD panel and use the IEGD package builder.

-G

Felix509

Hi Giuliano, I have tried the G965 Express Chipset driver you linked for me.

I get the::

'not all components of the driver installed properly'

Should i try reinstalling the windows drivers with the edited install file as you describe a few posts ago in this thread?

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hithere

wsxga...I'll do the moninfo and get it to you in an hour or so.

Edit: Here you go:

Monitor 1 creates this report:


EDID-0
ID SEC3250
SN n/a

This is the text I see for monitor 1:

Monitor
Windows description......... Plug and Play Monitor
Manufacturer................ Seiko-Epson
————————————————————————————
Plug and Play ID............ SEC3250
Serial number............... n/a
EDID data source............ Registry (stored)
————————————————————————————
Manufacture date............ 2006
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Digital
Sync input support.......... n/a
Screen size................. 2550 x 2550 mm (~155")
Power management............ Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep

Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 3.55
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.285 - Gy 0.605
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.148 - By 0.063
White point (default)....... Wx 0.281 - Wy 0.309

Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... n/a
Vertical scan range......... n/a
Video bandwidth............. n/a
Extension blocks............ n/a
Timing recommendation #1.... 1680x1050 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1680x1050" 119.230 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1052 1058 1080 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
1680 x 1050 at 60Hz - Seiko-Epson

Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 4C A3 50 32 00 00 00 00
10: 00 10 01 03 80 FF FF FF EA 00 00 A0 57 49 9B 26
20: 10 48 4F 21 08 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 93 2E 90 A0 60 1A 1E 40 30 20
40: 26 00 4B CF 10 00 00 19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B7

Display adapter
Adapter description......... Mobile Intel(R) 945GM Express Chipset Family
Adapter device ID........... 0x27A28086
Display settings............ 1680x1050, 32bpp


Here is the text I see in the report for the second monitor (xenarc not hooked up, will do so if you request):

EDID-0
ID SEC3250
SN n/a

Here is the text I see in the window:

Monitor
Windows description......... Seiko-Epson Monitor
Manufacturer................ Seiko-Epson
————————————————————————————
Plug and Play ID............ SEC3250
Serial number............... n/a
EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)
————————————————————————————
Manufacture date............ 2006
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Digital
Sync input support.......... n/a
Screen size................. 330 x 210 mm (~16")
Power management............ n/a

Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2.20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.580 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.310 - Gy 0.550
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.155 - By 0.155
White point (default)....... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329

Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... n/a
Vertical scan range......... n/a
Video bandwidth............. n/a
Extension blocks............ n/a
Timing recommendation #1.... 1680x1050 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1680x1050" 119.230 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1052 1058 1080 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
n/a

Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 4C A3 50 32 00 00 00 00
10: 00 10 01 03 80 21 15 78 0A 87 F5 94 57 4F 8C 27
20: 27 50 54 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 93 2E 90 A0 60 1A 1E 40 30 20
40: 26 00 4B CF 10 00 00 19 00 00 00 0F 00 00 00 00
50: 00 00 00 00 00 3C D2 02 64 00 00 00 00 FE 00 43
60: 46 32 36 34 02 31 35 34 50 32 0A 20 00 00 00 FE
70: 00 28 3F 48 54 7D A3 D3 FF 02 01 0A 20 20 00 55

Display adapter
Adapter description......... Auxiliary port
Adapter device ID........... 0x27A68086
Display settings............ n/a

koabi

couldn't get powerstrip to allow 800x480 on my intel 82810e (pretty old...) - just wondering if you could tell me what I could try to get that as an option.

i have no idea if there are similarities with the other intel chipsets, but it's worth asking right? thanks for the good work

Giuliano

Hithere:

That's good info.

Please attach the Xenarc and repeat, I'd like to see what it reports for that.


Try to attach it as a text file instead..


The "Modeline" entry actually tells me the parameters I'd need to drive your laptop LCD correctly:

Modeline................ "1680x1050" 119.230 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1052 1058 1080 -hsync -vsync

First number 1680x1050 is the horizontal and vertical active lines..

119.230 is the pixel clock in Mhz.. 10khz format for IEGD would be 11923 decimal.

The rest of the numbers are start and stop pixels for the other timing parameters.. it gets somewhat complicated.


Those details are also in the EDID Base hex numbers, but that's MUCH more difficult to decode.. some of the bits are mixed together.


I think we're getting much closer to a working IEGD driver build for laptop displays.. if you don't mind being a guinea pig..

Giuliano

Is your system a laptop?

Please describe it further..

Also, grab the Moninfo program from Entech Taiwan, and run it with your external display (Xenarc?) attached.

Attach the Report here as a text file (.txt).


It seems people are getting these errors when they have a configuration with display ports other than just Analog VGA, such as DVI, TV Out, or laptop LVDS LCD panels.


And yes, try the last [NonEDIDMode_AddSWSettings] parameters, using the standard Intel driver package from their web site.

The byte string is the one that starts with 96,96...

I think you may have a better chance of that working with your G965 chipset.


The NonEDID settings may only show up if you have a non-EDID (possibly?) monitor attached, such as the Xenarc.

Giuliano

Certainly worth asking..


The 810 is an older chipset, and it's not included in the latest IEGD 6.1 package.. but I think it may be included in the older 5.1 package.


Let me look into it..

Edit: Looked into it.

The IEGD 5.1 driver package for the i815 chipset series also includes these i810's:

i810
i810DC
i810E


So it looks like you're in luck.


In the mean time, grab the Moninfo program from Entech Taiwan:
http://entechtaiwan.net/util/moninfo.shtm

Run it, save the Report as a text file (.txt), and post it here as an attachment.


Make sure that when you run it, you have the standard Intel drivers installed (or the Vendor's, such as Dell's), and have all the monitors you want to use attached to the system.


Also, I'll need details on your system..

Laptop / desktop, number of video ports.. which ports you want to use, etc.

Felix509

My computer is not a laptop. It is based on a Gigabyte GA-965GM-S2 motherboard. Veiwsonic 19"crt hooked to it now, when installed in my truck it will have a Xenarc700tsv.

Find the file montor.txt from my computer with the Viewsonic attached.

Do you also need me to hook up the Xenarc and get the monitor info?

Attached Files

	monitor.txt (37 Bytes, 89 views)

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koabi

Mine's a desktop with one VGA output - it is currently hooked up to the Xenarc 700TSV and that will be the only screen it uses.

monman didn't really report that much information because the xenarc doesn't have PnP drivers (to my knowledge), but it's attached. Let me know if you need more info

Attached Files

	monmanreport.txt (650 Bytes, 74 views)

Giuliano

Good - let me work on the older IEGD package, and I'll let you know in a few days..

Giuliano

Okay, I've confirmed that the Xenarc won't provide any EDID info, which is what I thought.


How many of you, when you were trying the IEGD driver packages or the standard Intel driver .INF modifications actually had the Xenarc attached to the VGA port?


What I suspect is that the 800x480 settings encoded in the NonEDID keys only show up when a monitor is attached that does NOT provide EDID info.

Most "normal" LCD displays these days provide the EDID timing info over the VGA cable, and hence override the NonEDID settings.



Felix509, please try the Intel driver .INF mod as listed in a few posts ago, the one starting with 96,96.

Before you install the drivers, attach the Xenarc instead of your Viewsonic LCD.


Hithere, I'll build a new driver package to account for the LCD panel soon.

Felix509

Good deal, i will try it as soon as i can, maybe tomorrow..

Will this mod make 800x480 the only resolution, or add 800x480 to the list of available??

Thanks

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Xenarc
ZAPCO DSP-6
ARCAUDIO SE Amps
Rainbow Profi CS365 & Profi Vanadium 12"

Giuliano

It should add 800x480 to the list of standard timings, such as 800x600, 1024x768, etc..


With a non-EDID monitor attached, 800 x 480 should show up in the list.

You may need to go into the Advanced section and pick the mode from the list.

koabi

i can do some tests to confirm listed resolutions for EDID vs non-EDID when/if you get a driver for my ancient machine if that helps